From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4128: Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:01:22 +0800 Message-ID: <4A82E752.6050502@gnu.org> References: <369B88AE-E03F-4934-85E7-B1A0AA408D9B@gmail.com> Reply-To: Jason Rumney , 4128@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1250095420 6323 80.91.229.12 (12 Aug 2009 16:43:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:43:40 +0000 (UTC) To: David Reitter , 4128@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 12 18:43:32 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MbGvD-0008Bc-HG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:43:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34880 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MbGvB-0000NL-J6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:43:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MbGfD-0000m6-TQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:26:59 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MbGf8-0000fe-9W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:26:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58820 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MbGf8-0000fP-0q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:26:54 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:36236) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MbGf6-0003Jb-RD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:26:53 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n7CGQnc1005778; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:26:50 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7CGA4g3003071; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:10:04 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Jason Rumney Original-Sender: Jason Rumney Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs , owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:10:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4128 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,ns X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 4128-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B4128.12500928961001 (code B ref 4128); Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:10:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4128) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 Aug 2009 16:01:36 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mail-pz0-f198.google.com (mail-pz0-f198.google.com [209.85.222.198]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n7CG1Zq5000996 for <4128@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:01:36 -0700 Original-Received: by pzk36 with SMTP id 36so79999pzk.13 for <4128@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:01:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:received:message-id :date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mGDEVZEIaTw3nrlvqzCS6Bwi8WZVsgVu/Tll4ZvA4z0=; b=kh0s6a8X/sMQp787dFbYAnbt90MIryKqW2ZzJH5FpfiNK+/G5o5CVFtzQywTNYvwa7 qS/USS/oG3UEjj+EhvL6d70dBwcSfolekD6NhptG9xuEEG1Xam0wcg8Q5BDnh0MDZ2hv XYBjNiZ89HzH1bFVCvh4M9fjW8Uu0bkWXHI3I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bF1Q8L6O2BMGdVtbitkDqhUuRe5F9JzKQVHW5623/Jz2ruc09QBYwS/nJMvzYyC3XH L8ZPdriFLC1TW3fMk2O48iCcOPfDVniVqVH/8zSQNzrVedxNQO58DyCPpXKGqaH79gld FXFHHdxlkgqeAVELlf65x7uTWXYWvpyBHh3oM= Original-Received: by 10.115.65.39 with SMTP id s39mr172182wak.194.1250092888125; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from wanchan.jasonrumney.net ([118.101.138.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n6sm12939482wag.4.2009.08.12.09.01.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from wanchan.jasonrumney.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wanchan.jasonrumney.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34EFB745; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:01:23 +0800 (MYT) User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090103) In-Reply-To: <369B88AE-E03F-4934-85E7-B1A0AA408D9B@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:26:59 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:30131 Archived-At: David Reitter wrote: >> However, binding anything to a power-off command within Emacs sounds >> like a bad idea. > > In the contrary, not reacting to the ns-power-off message would be a > bad idea because it would stall and then cancel shutdown (and probably > log out as well) on OS X. The app needs to react correctly to that, > and that is to quit while asking the user whether to save unsaved > buffers. The impression I got from the bug report was that a command `ns-power-off' was being bound to a key in Emacs. But it sounds dangerous to make such an event a lisp level event and allow arbitrary user code to delay or prevent shutdown of the system. On Windows, the equivalent event auto-saves all buffers and exits, in a way that is not held up by an infinite lisp loop in user code.