From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Infrastructural complexity. Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:53:42 +0200 Message-ID: <4A6AC816.2080108@gmx.at> References: <20090712180623.GA1009@muc.de> <4A6970CA.7090006@gmx.at> <4A69A4C1.1010408@gmx.at> <4A69DC7B.2040305@gmx.at> <4A69EB9D.6050909@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1248512293 28314 80.91.229.12 (25 Jul 2009 08:58:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:58:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Thomas Lord , rms@gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, acm@muc.de, drew.adams@oracle.com, Miles Bader To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 25 10:58:05 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MUd4t-0005Fg-Pn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:58:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44077 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MUd4s-0005G1-RJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:58:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MUd0y-00042T-FQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:54:00 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MUd0s-0003zn-JA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:53:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44773 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MUd0s-0003zg-9V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:53:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:43404) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MUd0r-00052M-9j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:53:53 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Jul 2009 08:53:50 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-33-192.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.33.192]) [62.47.33.192] by mail.gmx.net (mp070) with SMTP; 25 Jul 2009 10:53:50 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18fGkRaFa0fZgsAIdLNHkcY0Mz0xSScKiNFTg00Q5 3ME3KWlHqQMUpb User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.71 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:113125 Archived-At: > This can of course be done by just jumping over them. If that is worth > the effort is another matter. If you want the display-engine just jump over invisible windows, you have to discuss that with someone familiar with the display code. >>> Rotating the visual window structure. Transposing the visual window >>> structure. >> These would be possible only within certain well-behaved window >> configurations. Hardly something for basic window handling routines. > > Are there really any well-behaved window configuration when it comes > to rezising? Why should it be different when rotating or transposing? I don't know how you would rotate a configuration like ---------------- | | | | | | |------| | | | | | | | ---------------- and why people should want to do that. Or do you mean to rotate the frame by 90 degrees? I occasionally do flip the contents of two equally sized side-by-side windows, for example, when diffing revisions. That's mainly because of my way of reading things from left to right connotes the idea that something in a left-hand window is older than something in a window on the right. So while I agree that transposing two windows around a common axis can be interesting, I have no use case for rotating windows. martin