Re: Infrastructural complexity.

[martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>]

 >> I'm afraid that window groups won't get away with little or 0 changes to
 >> the C code.  OTOH, framelets could get away with hardly any changes to C
 >> code.
 >
 > Eh?  How?!  ... unless you're suggesting  using separate real frames (i.e., window-manager
 > windows), but that seems a quick path to misery.

If people want frame-like behavior (i.e., have toolbars, menubars,
tear-off "windows"), then IMHO the easiest way to implement that is
using "real frames".  But please don't misread my opinion as "suggestion".

 > I thought the whole point of these window-groups / framelets (hate the
 > name, but anyway the concept) was to keep these auxiliary thingies
 > inside a single frame (window-manager window), so emacs has some hope of
 > keeping control over their placement.  That AFAICS, requires changes to
 > the C code...

A point of my proposal was to the keep the "auxiliary thingies inside a
single frame" and to change the C code.  OTOH I believe that
implementing framelets via separate frames would still give Emacs "some
hope of keeping control over their placement" (just as Emacs is able to
control placement of the Speedbar).

martin