Re: non noisy dired

[Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com>]

Drew Adams wrote:
>>> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/DiredDetails
>>>
>>> You'll never have to see anything other than the file name, 
>>> unless you want to, and you can do that by hitting a toggle key.
>> This is probably OT, but still. When you mentioned this extension I 
>> tried out dired-details+.el. It works perfectly as expected 
>> when I load it using `M-x load-library dired-details+'.
>>
>> However if I put (require 'dired-details+) in my .emacs, I 
>> get "Symbol's value as variable is void: dired-mode-map"
>>
>> What am I doing wrong here? I am very new to emacs, just a 
>> few months. So its very likely I could be missing something trivial.
> 
> No, you were not doing anything wrong.
> Here's the explanation (it was a bug):
> 
> (require 'dired-details+) loads dired-details+, which in turn does (require
> 'dired-details), which loads dired-details.
> 
> But neither explicitly loads dired, which is where variable `dired-mode-map' is
> defined. After it loads dired-details, dired-details+ tries to use that variable
> at load time --> error.
> 
> Should be fixed now. The fix is to use the variable not at load time, but after
> dired is loaded.
> 
> Thx - Drew
> 

Thank you Drew. I really love this library.

> P.S. Two years ago, the author of dired-details.el, Rob Giardina, integrated all
> of the dired-details.el and dired-details+.el features into Emacs - he submitted
> a comprehensive patch. The Emacs developers seemed to agree to this addition,
> but they never followed up, so it never happened. I've ping'ed them several
> times about it (the last time was 2008-11-12), with zero response. Too bad.
> Rob's integration was clean, avoiding the `defadvice' and other hoops that these
> two libraries jump through.
> 

This would be a great addition to Emacs. Hopefully the developers show 
more interest before the next release.

GL

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Suvayu

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