From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Bind `q' to `quit-window' or similar in *Messages* Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 07:48:31 -0800 Message-ID: <49F60829322A48C886BC62810DDB0147@us.oracle.com> References: <7b501d5c1002030148j2df7b01eu92eb0729eb6cc28f@mail.gmail.com> <87636evclf.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1265212174 20836 80.91.229.12 (3 Feb 2010 15:49:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:49:34 +0000 (UTC) To: "'Tassilo Horn'" , Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 03 16:49:29 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NchTM-0005t0-Te for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:48:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48020 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NchTM-00021C-BL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:48:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NchTG-000208-Gb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:48:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47035 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NchTG-0001zj-4E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:48:50 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NchTB-0006UP-2J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:48:49 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet12.oracle.com ([141.146.126.234]:53109) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NchT9-0006Tc-P1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:48:44 -0500 Original-Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by acsinet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o13FmcxU011291 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:48:40 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o136ZVA8016032; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:48:38 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt014.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 9028081265212112; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:48:32 -0800 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.175.193.198) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:48:32 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87636evclf.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcqkvIEW8XyNmpHTRm+CkNhrxOpDWAAKy7jA X-Source-IP: acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090205.4B699AD6.013B:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:120859 Archived-At: > Cause *Messages* is not read-only, and maybe you want to insert a q > there. But does that anybody really want? I guess no. So I'd be in > favor of making *Messages* read-only and bind `q' to `quit-window' > there. Absolutely I want that. I want to be able to write in *Messages*. Yes, I can toggle read-only, but if `q' quits, then that defeats the purpose. I sometimes find myself with tons of messages being logged, and when I make several successive tests I sometimes type stuff in Messages to distinguish test sequences etc. And I kill sections of text there, or copy text (including text I've added) to other buffers, and so on. What's wrong with `C-x 0' (or `C-x k')? Please do not make *Messages* read-only. Likewise, *Pp Eval Output*.