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([124.13.4.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a14sm1316563tia.7.2009.04.06.15.53.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:53:54 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: <38FE7C75-06D5-4680-A7EB-0D8F4F810C95@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:03:56 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:26945 Archived-At: Adrian Robert wrote: > Do W32 users face this same issue? That is, does 'alt' play the same > role on their non-US keyboards as it does on the Mac ones? Can we > follow Emacs on W32 in that case? AltGr is distinct from Alt on Windows, so non-US users just lose one of the meta keys on their keyboard. There are some users who prefer to use Alt to access the menus though, and use the windows keys for meta. Currently this requires a patched version of Emacs to work properly, we have papers from the author, we are just waiting for the author to clean up the patch so we can install it, for 23.2 now.