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([118.100.161.108]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y3sm922912tia.3.2009.03.10.07.51.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:51:04 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) In-Reply-To: <005f01c9a084$114a0280$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:03:44 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:26206 Archived-At: Drew Adams wrote: > A visually impaired new Emacs user just asked a question about this > variable on help-emacs-windows@gnu.org. I had never heard of this > variable. I see now that it is a defvar, even though it seems to be > documented as a user "flag". Seems like it should be a defcustom. > It was originally intended as a user option, but code was added to automatically set it according to whether screen reading software is in use. So it should just do the right thing. Documentation probably needs updating to reflect that, and the fact that it is only useful for screen reading software, as the user seems to have gotten the idea that it might help them even though they don't use such software - in fact Emacs drawn cursors are far more useful, as they can be configured to be more or less visible as the user requires.