From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#2577: 23.0.91; startup.el should choose .emacs ahead of .emacs.elc if .emacs is newer Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:37:53 +0800 Message-ID: <49B12731.8060104@gnu.org> References: <20090305084439.GR28813@bennee.com> <20090306101854.GW28813@bennee.com> Reply-To: Jason Rumney , 2577@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1236348315 7978 80.91.229.12 (6 Mar 2009 14:05:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:05:15 +0000 (UTC) To: Alex , 2577@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 06 15:06:29 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Lfafo-00068G-6G for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:05:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57669 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LfaeS-0004Yz-Tk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:03:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LfaeO-0004WI-Hz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:03:44 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LfaeM-0004RU-E7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:03:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51169 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LfaeM-0004RE-At for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:03:42 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:53869) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LfaeL-0005x5-Kh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:03:41 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n26E3e30026698; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 06:03:40 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n26Dj4Ae021945; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 05:45:04 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Jason Rumney Original-Sender: Jason Rumney Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:45:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2577 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 2577-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2577.123634670520519 (code B ref 2577); Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:45:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 2577) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 6 Mar 2009 13:38:25 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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([118.100.161.108]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i9sm393446tid.33.2009.03.06.05.38.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:38:20 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) In-Reply-To: <20090306101854.GW28813@bennee.com> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:03:43 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:26039 Archived-At: Alex wrote: >> I think that if people compile their .emacs they get what they ask for. >> > > That's not very helpful. For you, perhaps not. But we have discussed this on emacs-devel numerous times in the past, and every time it has been clear that different people have different opinions. Many people consider lisp source to be "work in progress" until they compile it, and do not want Emacs to load it by default if there is a compiled version around. The compromise is to issue a warning. If you have a problem remembering to compile your .emacs, then either delete the .emacs.elc file and stop compiling it, or investigate one of the solutions that people have come up with to compile it automatically.