From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Some Font & Face Questions (unicode--2) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 11:14:10 +0200 Message-ID: <499368B5-88D6-4F19-ADC0-E6162985E7C6@Web.DE> References: <87ps1xtqf9.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1186651011 9217 80.91.229.12 (9 Aug 2007 09:16:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:16:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Florian Beck Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 09 11:16:50 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IJ48O-0002Vi-VO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:16:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJ48O-0007VJ-92 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 05:16:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IJ485-0007TJ-CE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 05:16:29 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IJ483-0007QE-Bn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 05:16:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJ483-0007Q4-2Y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 05:16:27 -0400 Original-Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de ([217.72.192.234]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IJ482-0002hp-KX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 05:16:26 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594F991A36EA; Thu, 9 Aug 2007 11:14:13 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [89.58.86.203] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (WEB.DE 4.108 #197) id 1IJ45t-00060T-00; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:14:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87ps1xtqf9.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19HVybCKEiLc3P5Cm2pfWr8LB0z/UtmS0XIekc7 /FmhTy6hfwN442uQ9bZOlwcjsPJLMxw0WYyOqmtMo2u9S8BmGb YHZpdRSlmtRpuj4TBycQ== X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:46434 Archived-At: Am 09.08.2007 um 04:03 schrieb Florian Beck: > 2. How do I find out about the possible fonts-specs? You did not mention whether you use in the experimental Unicode Emacs =20= 23 its font backend or not. Without it you need to edit X11's font =20 path. This can be done for example in ~/.xinitrc, the script that =20 launches the X clients and the window server: xset fp+ /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/,/sw/lib/X11/fonts/=20= applettf/,/sw/lib/X11/font s/libwmf/,/sw/lib/X11/fonts/msttf/ xset fp rehash Before this actually can work you need to create the (fonts.alias,) =20 fonts.dir and fonts.scale directory files for X11 with mkfontdir or =20 such in each component of font path. If you have enabled the font backend then fontconfig is managing =20 Unicode Emacs' font use. This system relies on fonts.conf file, for =20 example: /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/fonts/local.conf /usr/local/etc/fonts/fonts.conf ~/.fonts.conf Then think of a longer break (lunch for example) and invoke as root =20 and in your own account fc-cache =96 after half an hour or later you'll =20= have the .fonts.cache-* files ... I also have a ~/.fontconfig directory (almost 800 cache files, almost =20= 7 MB) of which I don't know where it comes from and what it's good =20 for ... > > 3. I can set frame specific fonts. This works ok. Can I show different > fonts in *windows*? If not, as I fear, can I at least have different > font sizes in different windows, e.g. small fonts in *Help* windows? No, not yet. All windows in one frame have to share the same font or =20 fontset. But you can configure particular font faces to come from a =20 particular font, be in a particular size or of a particular colour, =20 shape ... -- Mit friedvollen Gr=FC=DFen Pete How many Microsoft engineers does it take to screw in a light-bulb? None. They just redefine "dark" as the new standard.