From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Roehler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: end-of-defun is fubsr. Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:54:50 +0100 Message-ID: <4989AC3A.6040806@online.de> References: <20090202202703.GB11077@muc.de> <20090203105035.GB1396@muc.de> <20090203122906.GC1396@muc.de> <20090203130028.GD1396@muc.de> <20090203160941.GE1396@muc.de> <87prhziink.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <49887C56.405@online.de> <20090204113325.GA1049@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233760715 31871 80.91.229.12 (4 Feb 2009 15:18:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juanma Barranquero , Chong Yidong , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 04 16:19:48 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LUjXQ-00034M-Ep for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:19:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35377 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LUjW7-0005oV-Da for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:18:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LUj8N-0002Lb-Ec for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:53:47 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LUj8L-0002KS-TY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:53:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44607 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LUj8L-0002KC-EQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:53:45 -0500 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.177]:54730) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LUj8K-0001fH-PA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:53:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.27] (p54BEA030.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.190.160.48]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKwtQ-1LUj7k3gLn-0005BU; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:53:11 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070801) In-Reply-To: <20090204113325.GA1049@muc.de> X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19LN4Oiszm8+zF59RivH8a5ZWNRALmcdkquvZc 8K5cB3cDj8dCI+CjNrqAmf32Ry0RG9Ic3BmvDHP0Wy/GyGlh+x /dmv/w0ANrtLV2ubp89aJuOe0ao4AX5WK6IXA0/QeY= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:108736 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie wrote: > 'ten Tag, Andreas! > > On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 06:18:14PM +0100, Andreas Roehler wrote: > >> I have remarked buggy/risky implementation already here > >> http://www.archivum.info/emacs-devel@gnu.org/2007-11/msg01940.html > > Thanks, I hadn't seen that thread. Quoting from it, Stefan said in > Message-ID: , Date: Mon, 26 Nov > 2007 14:26:59 -0500: > > Rather than argue about the change itself, just give us some use > case where the new behavior is problematic. > > We now have at least two problematic behaviours: it enforces > inefficiencies on some major modes, e.g. CC Mode. It is difficult to > code bug-free (bug #2106, looping in Python mode). > > I agree with Andreas here, this change should be reworked. > >> Andreas Röhler > Hi Stefan, AFAIR point here is not to write new stuff, rather to weed out useless girlands. Don't felt my contribution welcome in 2007. If you wont me to strip it down to function now, please tell. (Deleting some outgrown should not raise the copyright/assignment question either.) Andreas Röhler