From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Beverley Eyre Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.python-mode,gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: replacing python.el Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:58:59 -0800 Message-ID: <49855643.4070803@comcast.net> References: <4980316B.7080503@online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1243093605==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233475116 21740 80.91.229.12 (1 Feb 2009 07:58:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:58:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, python-mode@python.org, XEmacs-Beta@xemacs.org, fx@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: python-mode-bounces+gcpp-python-mode=m.gmane.org@python.org Sun Feb 01 08:59:49 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcpp-python-mode@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from bag.python.org ([194.109.207.14]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LTXEx-0008VB-PB for gcpp-python-mode@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 08:59:39 +0100 Original-Received: from bag.python.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E4C1E402A for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 08:58:19 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from bag.python.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775321E4002; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 08:58:15 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'emacs': 0.07; 'list?': 0.07; 'wrote:': 0.08; '11:00': 0.09; 'gnu': 0.09; 'problem.': 0.14; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.15; 'cc:addr:pobox.com': 0.16; 'cc:addr:skip': 0.16; 'from:name:beverley eyre': 0.16; 'glenn': 0.16; 'have?': 0.16; 'python.el': 0.16; 'received:164.67': 0.16; 'received:164.67.194': 0.16; 'received:164.67.194.80': 0.16; 'received:169': 0.16; 'received:169.232': 0.16; 'received:169.232.46': 0.16; 'received:mail.ucla.edu': 0.16; 'received:smtp.ucla.edu': 0.16; 'received:ucla.edu': 0.16; 'r\xf6hler': 0.16; 'stallman': 0.16; 'implement': 0.17; 'pm,': 0.18; 'anyone': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.19; 'dave': 0.26; 'from:addr:comcast.net': 0.26; 'subject:: ': 0.27; 'several': 0.28; 'distributed': 0.28; 'code': 0.29; 'maybe': 0.29; 'there': 0.31; 'could': 0.32; 'contributors': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'although': 0.37; 'rec Original-Received: from localhost (HELO bag.python.org) (127.0.0.1) by bag.python.org with SMTP; 01 Feb 2009 08:58:15 +0100 X-policyd-weight: NOT_IN_ZEN_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_SPAMCOP=-1.5 NOT_IN_BL_NJABL=-1.5 CL_IP_EQ_HELO_IP=-2 (check from: .comcast. - helo: .out-61.smtp.ucla. - helo-domain: .ucla.) FROM/MX_MATCHES_NOT_HELO(DOMAIN)=1 IN_PM_RFCI=3.2 , rate: -2.3 Original-Received: from out-61.smtp.ucla.edu (out-61.smtp.ucla.edu [169.232.46.166]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 08:58:14 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail.ucla.edu (mail.ucla.edu [169.232.46.157]) by smtp-12.smtp.ucla.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n117vx5O013176; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:58:02 -0800 Original-Received: from [164.67.194.80] (femto.ee.ucla.edu [164.67.194.80]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.ucla.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n117vxnE008226 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:57:59 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20081204 Thunderbird/3.0b1 In-Reply-To: X-Probable-Spam: no X-Spam-Hits: 1.211 X-Spam-Score: * X-Spam-Report: HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Scanned-By: smtp.ucla.edu on 169.232.46.245 X-BeenThere: python-mode@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: For issues concerning python-mode for X/Emacs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: python-mode-bounces+gcpp-python-mode=m.gmane.org@python.org Errors-To: python-mode-bounces+gcpp-python-mode=m.gmane.org@python.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.python-mode:221 gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:29273 gmane.emacs.devel:108507 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1243093605== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060905060403050904050801" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060905060403050904050801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/31/2009 11:00 PM, Glenn Morris wrote: > Richard M Stallman wrote: > > =20 >> Since Andreas R=F6hler is unwilling to sign legal papers for his >> code in python.el, we cannot use it in Emacs. >> >> Would anyone like to implement for python-mode.el whatever >> nice features python.el may have? Barry, could you make a TODO list? >> =20 > > You've got this backwards. > > Emacs includes python.el, written by Dave Love, about which there is > no legal problem. > > python-mode.el is the alternative, which has several contributors > including Andreas R. This has never been included in Emacs. > > There is no legal problem affecting python.el distributed with GNU > Emacs. > > =20 Glenn, Don't forget that there was a peck of code that Dave Love took from=20 python-mode.el in his python.el. Although he acknowledged it in the=20 comments he used inline, if some of it was from Andreas, maybe rms is=20 correct and python.el will have to be sidelined. Bev --------------060905060403050904050801 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 01/31/2009 11:00 PM, Glenn Morris wrote: 
Richard M Stallman wrote:

  
Since Andreas Röhler is unwilling to sign legal papers for his
code in python.el, we cannot use it in Emacs.

Would anyone like to implement for python-mode.el whatever
nice features python.el may have?  Barry, could you make a TODO list?
    

You've got this backwards.

Emacs includes python.el, written by Dave Love, about which there is
no legal problem.

python-mode.el is the alternative, which has several contributors
including Andreas R. This has never been included in Emacs.

There is no legal problem affecting python.el distributed with GNU
Emacs.
Glenn,

Don't forget that there was a peck of code that Dave Love took from python-mode.el in his python.el.  Although he acknowledged it in the comments he used inline, if some of it was from Andreas, maybe rms is correct and python.el will have to be sidelined.

Bev
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