From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: 32643@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#32643: 26; minor-mode variables
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 07:18:45 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <494224f1-815f-4fb4-a779-75e243b519f0@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1fxnCb-0005Ky-0P@fencepost.gnu.org>
> > It doesn't say why some do and some don't. Why doesn't it? What's the
> > answer to that question? For example, why doesn't variable
> > `auto-fill-mode' exist? Shouldn't all minor modes have a variable?
> > Which ones should?
>
> It is not crucial for the manual to answer "why" questions.
> If this one were easy to answer, it could be worth answering.
> But in fact this one would be a lot of work.
I get that you replied only about that intro paragraph. And no,
it's not "crucial" to explain "why" about everything. Far from it.
And I guess you're only speaking against any blanket requirement
to explain "why" everywhere, and not against a request that
`auto-fill-mode' have a variable etc.
But the real point of the bug report is that we _do_ say that a
minor mode should have (and set) a mode variable:
Define a variable whose name ends in '-mode'. We call this the
"mode variable". The minor mode command should set this
variable.
And that "should" is not respected by some variables from basic
Emacs itself - in particular `auto-fill-mode'. Shouldn't it be?
Nothing requires everything in the Emacs distribution to respect
each convention that Emacs sets forth. But is there a reason why
`auto-fill-mode' (and others?) should not respect this convention?
If nothing else, I'm curious why the exception(s).
(The bug report also asks whether it's a bug for a mode not to have
a variable, and suggests that it is. And if it's not, the report asks that
the Elisp manual give some guidance about when a mode should
not or need not have a variable.)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-06 14:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-05 15:13 bug#32643: 26; minor-mode variables Drew Adams
2018-09-06 5:51 ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-06 14:18 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2018-09-06 14:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-08 2:07 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-09-08 2:25 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-09 20:33 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-09-09 22:09 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-12 0:51 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-09-12 1:46 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-13 3:32 ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-13 13:28 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-09-09 6:05 ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-09 14:12 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-10 7:27 ` Andreas Röhler
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2018-09-06 14:51 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-06 18:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2018-09-07 0:10 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-07 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-08 5:13 ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-08 13:58 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-08 17:53 ` Andreas Röhler
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2018-09-07 15:07 ` Drew Adams
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