From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jan D." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scrollbars on GTK. Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:45:05 +0100 Message-ID: <490F0061.5060304@swipnet.se> References: <873ai91l0z.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <490EAC5F.8090307@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225720019 4493 80.91.229.12 (3 Nov 2008 13:46:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?s?= , "Jan D." , emacs-devel@gnu.org, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D3scar_Fuente?= To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 03 14:47:59 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KwzmX-0006Yj-8a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:47:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36977 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KwzlO-0005vi-S3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:46:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kwzk2-0005Vh-J0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:45:14 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kwzjz-0005Sq-Lx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:45:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45895 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kwzjz-0005SW-10 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:45:11 -0500 Original-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.153]:23467) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kwzjy-0003vZ-E0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:45:10 -0500 Original-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so2487488fgb.30 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 05:45:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; bh=ydgvb0Bf7UJN69HwAE7O6Kd82qrnh2P8GYbp1KVarfo=; b=ssX/bgEJ+FXmSW2RMlCpD6PTXYs8/YI2FW8RGqSywMNkvsGoMeQqhb7kkzOkJmTJik 3voXoAdsQtlUVo5X2ot72n1CcK0fcadZzwln6xBbc2pO2osrxJuCf5l3cPa5XUk7qq1i 5OB23GAkfhD621ynqv/k08TSuGpJ6aahy8RB0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :sender; b=WxuVn1oBJpYbIYie0kG6H4tc5cP2SypN5lSLz/qYmztoLsIDV7zFcwjJdObBdiQz7A IwjZWgZXL9Dr8CYNUAW0bS4xhFHXp/U6Fc769FASMHAepiurGMh+tsSBgxvaUcC3TiSq 0ts8Nd2//oFtfSeJHPu0UZlbU610XAMwkbHH8= Original-Received: by 10.86.70.3 with SMTP id s3mr167359fga.25.1225719908362; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 05:45:08 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from ?10.225.40.37? ([193.45.43.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l19sm8545285fgb.7.2008.11.03.05.45.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 03 Nov 2008 05:45:07 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:105296 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier skrev: >> It is not a limitation per se, but it has been descided that Emacs shall >> have the ability to scroll end of buffer to the top of the window with the >> scroll bar. That means tha Emacs differs from practically all apps, GTK >> or not. > > Actually, this is only indirectly related to the problem at hand. > We could "easily" prevent scrolling past the "EOB=EOW", but that > wouldn't help fixing the problem at hand. Not fully, no. Until Emacs starts counting pixels, the thumb will always be off a bit from the expected position. But turning off "overscroll" helps a bit. The W32 scroll bar doesn't seem to do overscroll in Emacs (22.3 from ftp.gnu.org). Jan D.