From: David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Monospace font bug?
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 06:55:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4902B4CF.5090503@harpegolden.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wsfxuvuc.fsf@cyd.mit.edu>
Chong Yidong wrote:
>
> That's an unfortunate choice of name.
>
Yes, yes it is.
> Any suggestion about how to avoid matching to that font?
>
>
No. but is it desirable to? If emacs says "monospace"
to the OS, and the OS returns something usable (see below), should emacs
second guess it? The distros with ttf-georgewilliams packages seem to
be aware of the issue and are fixing it by removing or renaming the font
in favour of the de-facto standard "monospace" virtual font name
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gw-fonts-ttf/+bug/95357/comments/6
Anwyay, while emacs on my display with george williams monospace doesn't
look _wonderful_ - the font isn't hinted I guess, looks better at larger
sizes - it is nowhere near as bad as bug 1219's rendering. (I'll send a
screenshot offlist).
If it were to be blacklisted very naively, I can even imagine someone
who doesn't mind the non-dotted-zeros and with a hires display (so the
hinting issues didn't matter) deciding they like it, and being perplexed
when they tell emacs "monospace" and it doesn't work...
Of course, it's being rendered by xft not core x in my case. But it
certainly currently looks to me like bug 1219 could well be some aspect
of core x's truetype font metric handling being buggy rather than the
font or emacs for that matter being buggy.
So _maybe_ blacklisting it from the core x font backend might be
worthwhile (I for one just don't use core x font rendering, it's
terrible even when working right), but the font doesn't seem to me to
be a real problem when it's rendered by xft, and the problem
is being treated as a bug by the distros anyway?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-25 5:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-25 1:32 Monospace font bug? Chong Yidong
2008-10-25 3:08 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-10-25 4:17 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-10-25 4:44 ` Chong Yidong
2008-10-25 5:55 ` David De La Harpe Golden [this message]
2008-10-25 17:22 ` Chong Yidong
2008-10-25 18:22 ` Stefan Monnier
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=4902B4CF.5090503@harpegolden.net \
--to=david@harpegolden.net \
--cc=cyd@stupidchicken.com \
--cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.