From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to get rid of *GNU Emacs* buffer on start-up? Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:39:53 +0200 Message-ID: <48DBB0C9.60206@gmail.com> References: <87ljxg6cge.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> <1222334008.683100@arno.fh-trier.de> <4daa63a3-c850-46b0-a923-4e3bea69d6b1@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <4d6235dd-6086-44ce-88db-3274adf9a867@a2g2000prm.googlegroups.com> <58430a12-9ca3-4b83-873c-7bdc91ec6548@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222357269 23588 80.91.229.12 (25 Sep 2008 15:41:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:41:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Xah Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 25 17:42:06 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kisy9-0001z5-NI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:41:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37067 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kisx7-0003QT-Je for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:40:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kiswk-0003Q1-UN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:40:02 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kiswj-0003Pd-CP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:40:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=32985 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kiswj-0003Pa-A4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:40:01 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]:54382) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kiswi-0001MZ-Ud for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:40:01 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-151-87.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.151.87]:59699 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Kiswg-0005dr-8K; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:39:58 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <58430a12-9ca3-4b83-873c-7bdc91ec6548@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080925-0, 2008-09-25), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.151.87 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1Kiswg-0005dr-8K. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1Kiswg-0005dr-8K da646a58710ac8b6bf0664c18f1a9ee0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:58074 Archived-At: Xah wrote: > On Sep 25, 6:48 am, "Lennart Borgman" > wrote: >> On 9/25/08, Xah wrote: >> >>> On Sep 25, 5:53 am, "Lennart Borgman" >>>> You have no rights whatsoever to insult people even if they have insulted you! >>> In some theoretical sense, sure, you don't have the "right" to return >>> insults, and you can be some saint. In real world, it doesn't work >>> like that. >> It is perfectly possible to fight without insulting other people. In >> fact that is what many great personalities have done. > > Lennart, are you trying to accuse me for something? I know you know I am saying that you do (in a way) insult people. And that I find this unnecessary. It is my impression that you feel you (somehow) have the right to insult when you feel insulted. I can't and I don't want to deny you that feeling. I think most of us get that feeling. However that feeling is no real reason to insult anyone. In my opinion it is rather a reason to think about what is important in your (everyones) life. In that way the feeling can help build cooperation (instead of destroying it). But all this in a way depends on what audience you have. In a fascist (or narcissistic) environment you may gain many points by insulting. I hope that is not the case here.