From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: In CVS Emacs, calc-eval gives multiplication higher precidence than division Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 09:07:13 +0200 Message-ID: <48C4CF21.3000204@gmail.com> References: <878wu3j4k2.fsf@gmail.com> <86wshn3df0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <48C43ADA.1070001@gmail.com> <86sksb3d53.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <48C43CB7.4060505@gmail.com> <86od2z3ck4.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <48C44279.7030200@gmail.com> <18628.51359.140430.875479@a1ihome1.kph.uni-mainz.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220857755 9072 80.91.229.12 (8 Sep 2008 07:09:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:09:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Randal L. Schwartz" To: Ulrich Mueller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 08 09:10:07 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KcarX-0008W7-3b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 09:08:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59440 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KcaqX-0000Mo-BE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 03:07:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KcaqR-0000In-Bp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 03:07:31 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KcaqP-0000H1-H4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 03:07:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48597 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KcaqP-0000Gs-Dt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 03:07:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:41405) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KcaqO-000355-Sc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 03:07:29 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KcaqO-0005Mq-AB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 03:07:28 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-151-87.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.151.87]:60219 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KcaqK-0003KY-6S; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 09:07:24 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <18628.51359.140430.875479@a1ihome1.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080907-0, 2008-09-07), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.151.87 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KcaqK-0003KY-6S. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1KcaqK-0003KY-6S 837d0d4ee58754b513d82a10cdef6e53 X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103671 Archived-At: Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>>>>> On Sun, 07 Sep 2008, Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote: > >> If some algebra books use "simplified notation" the best thing to do >> might be to burn them. > > Lennart, > > could you please leave such polemic out of the discussion? I find the > suggestion to burn books to be in very bad taste. Ok, sorry, but this is not about politics or similar things where I would never write such things. I am just very tired of different notations that just makes it harder for some people to learn. It is a bit frightened that pupils on the introductory courses at university level do not know these precedence rules. (Though I would not mind if they were not reading math.) > Also, the topic has been discussed in ample length before: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-04/msg00557.html Thanks. I found these two worth reading: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-04/msg00654.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-04/msg00905.html