From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Michael Reilly Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rmail-mbox branch Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:12:32 -0400 Message-ID: <48BEEFB0.2050308@pajato.com> References: <87zlprvod0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4868CF84.1040005@pajato.com> <48A90589.4020804@pajato.com> <48A91146.60200@pajato.com> <48A968A3.8050806@pajato.com> <48BA1DAE.2030005@pajato.com> <874p51xblf.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <84od39q9mv.fsf@boris.laptop> <84abesum0g.fsf@boris.laptop> <841w03v389.fsf@boris.laptop> <84wshvtgoz.fsf@boris.laptop> <84sksiu5ks.fsf@boris.laptop> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220472799 8504 80.91.229.12 (3 Sep 2008 20:13:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 20:13:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Evil Boris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 03 22:14:14 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kayju-0007iy-9T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:14:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40935 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kayio-0003f2-Q1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:12:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kayik-0003et-Ed for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:12:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kayig-0003do-4A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:12:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51334 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kayif-0003dl-RJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:12:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.pajato.com ([68.191.253.210]:35637 helo=copa.pajato.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kayie-00036J-Dq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:12:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (copa.pajato.com [68.191.253.210]) by copa.pajato.com (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m83KCWJQ024576; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:12:33 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080723) In-Reply-To: <84sksiu5ks.fsf@boris.laptop> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (copa.pajato.com [68.191.253.210]); Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:12:33 -0400 (EDT) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103516 Archived-At: Evil Boris wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> Current Rmail doesn't keep the file in mbox format, but in Babyl. >> Decoding as I suggested leaves a valid Babyl file, yes. > > I guess one can imagine a part whose decoding would introduce Babyl msg > separators, but I digress. > >> Pmail will hold the original mbox (undecoded) format, so such decoding >> will not affect it in any way. The decoded text lives only as long as >> the message is displayed. > > I did not realize that a decision was made to separate the presentation > from the mbox format, in Rmail/mbox. I recall a discussion about this > on emacs-devel, but did not remember the outcome. Me either. :-) But it is becoming more and more clear that there is no other reasonable way to do Rmail/mbox and maintain the PMAIL file in mbox format. > This makes at least that objection go away. Thanks. And a few other problems too, like invisible headers becoming visible when you least expect it (a current bug). -pmr