From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David De La Harpe Golden Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32? Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:26:37 +0100 Message-ID: <48B9BB0D.3040902@harpegolden.net> References: <48B7B08B.6050103@gmail.com> <48B7F905.7060605@gmail.com> <001301c909e8$d63092e0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <20080829155801.05fabc31.taylor@metasyntax.net> <48B8899F.6040308@harpegolden.net> <48B89284.9060202@gmail.com> <48B8AD6E.8010906@harpegolden.net> <20080830051048.GA9625@tomas> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220131632 19715 80.91.229.12 (30 Aug 2008 21:27:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:27:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" , jasonr@gnu.org, Taylor Venable , 'David House' , 'Eli Zaretskii' , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Drew Adams To: tomas@tuxteam.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 30 23:28:05 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KZXzJ-0002Hl-8M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:28:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45676 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZXyK-0003dd-Jn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:27:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZXyG-0003ch-8Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:27:00 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZXyF-0003bk-3E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:26:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45994 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZXyE-0003bh-TE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:26:58 -0400 Original-Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]:34573) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZXy6-00074y-1C; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:26:50 -0400 Original-Received: from golden1.harpegolden.net (unknown [86.45.10.133]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA rev 3" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27BD8089; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:26:46 +0100 (IST) User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) In-Reply-To: <20080830051048.GA9625@tomas> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103277 Archived-At: tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 03:16:14AM +0100, David De La Harpe Golden wrote: > >> IMO the optional-per-volume-trash-dir aspects are particularly iffy, > > Sure. The Windows method of dealing with network-hosted files is so > superior (just deleting *without* moving to trash!). Let's do that, > because that's what users expect (no!) > Huh? While that is awfully stupid of windows (quelle surprise), it's quite obviously usually possible to just backup the files trashed from netmounted volumes, like other volumes, to the user's "home trash", as the spec itself recommends as a failsafe fallback. (I did say "ever-less-relevant inefficiencies" - I'm fully aware such copying might be "wasteful", but it is a simpler and easier to assure secure scheme.)