From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32? Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:22:01 +0200 Message-ID: <48B7F7F9.9070108@gmail.com> References: <48B7288E.3040503@gmail.com> <48B73AA9.5090900@gnu.org> <48B73D8F.90501@gmail.com> <48B7AC10.6090800@gmail.com> <48B7B08B.6050103@gmail.com> <48B7D251.9080003@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220016167 18905 80.91.229.12 (29 Aug 2008 13:22:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:22:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David House , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jason Rumney Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 29 15:23:40 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KZ3wx-0004yU-Nn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:23:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37783 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZ3vz-00029U-76 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:22:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZ3vt-000296-VA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:22:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZ3vt-00028q-Dq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:22:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51385 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZ3vt-00028n-7w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:22:33 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]:49069) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ3vT-00062h-QF; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:22:08 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-151-87.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.151.87]:60009 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ3vS-0005Ar-6S; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:22:06 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <48B7D251.9080003@gnu.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080828-0, 2008-08-28), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.151.87 X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KZ3vS-0005Ar-6S. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1KZ3vS-0005Ar-6S 95138df486c85ddaea377b84b41b1f13 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103172 Jason Rumney wrote: > Basically Lennart is blaming his tools and misrepresenting the situation > to cover his foolish mistake. 'D' in dired does delete the marked files > as expected, not the file under the cursor as he claimed, and what's > more it prompts you with a list of the files to be deleted and requires > you to type Y-E-S before deleting anything. Yeah, shoot the messenger! Who want to be disturbed in his dreams. I told the cost of a user interface that is unexpected and I went to some length explaining that. You seem to have thrown that explanation in Emacs big Recycle Bin of refuted ideas. I am glad it can't be deleted directly in free software development ;-) I am sure there is substans in what I wrote about. I do not want any immediate reaction of course. It is food for thought. Normally I do not write these essays. Part of the reason is simply that I have found that communication often fails here when it comes to this kind of issues. Now I was frustrated and did not care about that. However I could have written nearly the same thing (minus the frustration of course) at another occasion if I had time and could find energy for it.