From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: Michael Ekstrand <michael@elehack.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32?
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:16:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48B73FE8.70805@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878wug1zcu.fsf@jehiel.elehack.net>
Michael Ekstrand wrote:
> "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:
>> I just deleted a file because I misunderstood dired. I needed that file
>> (of course).
>>
>> And then I found that dired did not make any backup and did not use
>> windows Recycle bin.
>
> Recycle bins are a shell-level niceism that are not central to the
> operating system. If you type 'del file' at the Windows command prompt,
> it will not use the recycle bin.
Thanks, yes, I know, but I don't understand why it is important here.
> Yes. Emacs, when it deletes a file, tells the operating system to
> delete it.
Thanks.
> The major desktop environments all provide a recycle bin-like feature
> (usually called Trash) when you're using their file management
> facilities, but this is not a function of the operating system itself.
>
> I would say, however, that allowing this to cause you to not trust
> GNU/Linux is a non sequitor. Operating systems provide a "remove file"
> function to applications, and on most of them (both Windows and the
> Linux kernel included) actually remove the file when it is called. To
> move to a recycle bin, you need to use move or something like it to put
> the file in the recycle bin. Some applications do this. Some do not.
On w32 you call a shell api with some flags. I would expect it to be
similar on other OS because this is a very central operation.
BTW David De La Harpe Golden mentioned versioning instead of recycle
bins. Some quick checks on the net showed that MS was moving in that
direction (maybe it is already in vista?). Of course I expect GNU/Linux
to do that to. And I actually expect the shells to use it too.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-29 0:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-28 22:37 Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32? Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-28 23:41 ` Michael Ekstrand
2008-08-29 0:16 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) [this message]
2008-08-28 23:42 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-28 23:48 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-28 23:54 ` Jason Rumney
2008-08-29 0:06 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 5:39 ` Jason Rumney
2008-08-29 6:51 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 7:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-29 7:58 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 8:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-29 8:17 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 9:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-29 9:43 ` David House
2008-08-29 10:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-29 13:26 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 14:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-29 15:06 ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 15:11 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-08-29 16:28 ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 15:39 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-08-29 16:32 ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 16:43 ` David House
2008-08-29 22:12 ` René Kyllingstad
2008-08-30 0:29 ` David House
2008-08-30 0:33 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 1:58 ` David House
2008-08-31 2:32 ` Sean Sieger
2008-08-31 2:34 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-31 3:28 ` Sean Sieger
2008-08-29 19:58 ` Taylor Venable
2008-08-29 20:08 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 20:46 ` Taylor Venable
2008-08-29 21:00 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 21:59 ` Phil Jackson
2008-08-29 22:12 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 23:43 ` Miles Bader
2008-08-30 9:49 ` Phil Jackson
2008-08-30 10:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-08-30 10:43 ` Phil Jackson
2008-08-30 20:41 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 14:03 ` Taylor Venable
2008-08-30 14:11 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 22:32 ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-08-30 22:40 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-31 3:35 ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-08-31 3:49 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 23:04 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-31 3:37 ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-08-31 6:55 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-31 6:59 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-08-31 9:31 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-31 13:51 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-08-31 15:04 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-31 16:38 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-08-31 17:43 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-31 20:25 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-31 10:46 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-29 20:12 ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 23:43 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-30 0:21 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 2:16 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-30 5:10 ` tomas
2008-08-30 21:26 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-31 4:53 ` tomas
2008-08-31 12:25 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-31 16:51 ` tomas
2008-08-31 20:22 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-01 4:33 ` tomas
2008-08-29 10:41 ` Jason Rumney
2008-08-29 11:35 ` martin rudalics
2008-08-29 12:16 ` David House
2008-08-29 13:22 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 13:45 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 14:00 ` Jason Rumney
2008-08-29 16:16 ` Francis Litterio
2008-08-29 9:19 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-29 8:16 ` David House
2008-08-29 8:18 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 8:31 ` David House
2008-08-29 8:39 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 10:01 ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-08-29 13:28 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 18:37 ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-08-31 12:31 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-31 19:26 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-31 21:49 ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-08-29 10:57 ` Phil Jackson
2008-08-29 14:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-29 18:37 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-29 19:59 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 9:11 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-30 12:42 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 13:26 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-30 13:58 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 15:06 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-30 17:23 ` René Kyllingstad
2008-08-30 20:40 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 22:37 ` Thomas Lord
2008-08-30 3:11 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-08-30 9:40 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-08-30 10:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-30 15:03 ` Jason Rumney
2008-08-30 20:22 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-30 9:36 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-31 1:30 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-31 6:22 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-29 20:24 ` Gilaras Drakeson
2008-08-29 20:56 ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 21:05 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 21:11 ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 21:13 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 21:20 ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 21:54 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 22:20 ` Drew Adams
2008-08-29 22:25 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-29 22:17 ` René Kyllingstad
2008-08-30 3:14 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=48B73FE8.70805@gmail.com \
--to=lennart.borgman@gmail.com \
--cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
--cc=michael@elehack.net \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.