From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release plans Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:12:54 +0200 Message-ID: <48B5C356.1010709@gmail.com> References: <20080818101802.GA2615@muc.de> <87bpzqqk7b.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20080818210927.GD2615@muc.de> <87wsidnxqp.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20080819155221.GA11524@muc.de> <871w0dcg6j.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20080825220105.GA13599@muc.de> <87prnwgyvc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20080826100216.GA2505@muc.de> <87hc97ggq7.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20080827210618.GA5374@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1219871660 29403 80.91.229.12 (27 Aug 2008 21:14:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, hannes@saeurebad.de, rms@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 27 23:15:13 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KYSMC-0007vw-F8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:15:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47686 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KYSLD-0002fg-Ty for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:14:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KYSL9-0002d9-4J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:14:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KYSL7-0002a1-Ca for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:14:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47069 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KYSL7-0002Zo-46 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:14:05 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]:34340) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KYSL2-0004Tm-Ks; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:14:00 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-151-176.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.151.176]:62857 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KYSKp-0008P5-7M; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:13:47 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <20080827210618.GA5374@muc.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080827-0, 2008-08-27), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.151.176 X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KYSKp-0008P5-7M. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1KYSKp-0008P5-7M bda03b33f412c82d059e258925de5168 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103048 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> IMO, the free software distribution model offers very little to those >> people in the way of hope that their needs will be met. Jury's still >> out, but I don't know any office-type users who prefer a working Ubuntu >> to a working Windows. Windows has more of the apps they want. Some >> still choose the reliability etc of a GNU/Linux distro, but they're >> painfully aware of being behind the curve in most application areas. > > Yes. Sadly. At the moment. My impression is also that a consistent user interface matters a lot because it makes it much easier to learn a new application.