From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com>
Cc: 745@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Subject: bug#745: pop-to-buffer, frames, and input focus
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:39:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48AEEBB8.50201@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2r68hnn05.fsf@gmail.com>
>>> pop-to-buffer doesn't switch input focus with: Sawfish, kwin,
>>> metacity, fluxbox, twm.
>>> It does with icewm.
>>>
>>> display-buffer seems to switch focus with: Sawfish, kwin, fluxbox,
>>> icewm, twm.
>> You probably mean display-buffer does _not_ switch focus with these.
>
> I meant to say: display-buffer _does_ switch focus when creating a new
> frame with those window managers: Sawfish, kwin, fluxbox, icewm, twm.
I still don't understand. Simplistically spoken, `pop-to-buffer' is
`display-buffer' + `select-window'. How can, using Sawfish say,
`display-buffer' switch focus and `pop-to-buffer' not switch focus?
>>> I still think that display-buffer should neither select the other frame
>>> nor give it the input focus. (Whether the other frame should be raised
>>> or not should probably be customizable, but that's a minor issue.)
>> I agree with you but I'm afraid there were issues with this. If you
>> have some spare time please look at the threads starting with
>>
>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2006-04/msg00922.html
>>
>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2005-11/msg00107.html
>>
>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-03/msg00946.html
>>
>> respectively. At the very least you will find out that you're not
>> alone.
>
> Those messages are several years old. And it looks like nobody is
> going to fix the issue this time.
We should fix it this time. Please try again two things with the
window-managers you listed above and `pop-up-frames' non-nil:
- tell whether `display-buffer' does switch focus.
- tell whether `pop-to-buffer' does switch focus.
- try both, if possible, with click-to-focus and a focus-follows-mouse
settings (maybe you have to set the value of the Emacs variable
`focus-follows-mouse' appropriately).
Here on Windos XP with a focus-follows-mouse policy, `display-buffer'
and `pop-to-buffer' both switch focus. IIRC, people reported troubles
with the standard click-to-focus policy. Honestly, I'm a bit reluctant
to try out click-to-focus here, maybe someone else can try?
> Maybe we could move the input focus to the selected frame in a lazy
> fashion. E.g. when Emacs waits for new events, we could compare the
> currently focused frame with the selected frame, and if they differ we
> could switch the focus to the selected frame. This would make
> select-frame more useful.
I suppose we should introduce a customizable variable which allows to
call `select-frame-set-input-focus' (or something similar) at least in
`pop-to-buffer' but maybe also in `display-buffer'. But we should also
provide a doc-string recommending what setting this variable should have
on which platform.
martin
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2008-08-20 7:35 ` bug#745: pop-to-buffer, frames, and input focus Helmut Eller
2008-08-20 14:50 ` martin rudalics
2008-08-20 18:42 ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-20 20:42 ` David Reitter
2008-08-20 20:56 ` martin rudalics
2008-08-21 8:07 ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-21 9:04 ` martin rudalics
2008-08-21 13:20 ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-21 20:31 ` martin rudalics
2008-08-22 14:27 ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-22 16:39 ` martin rudalics [this message]
2008-08-23 8:55 ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-23 12:05 ` martin rudalics
2008-08-24 13:14 ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-25 13:45 ` martin rudalics
2008-08-26 21:45 ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-27 8:12 ` martin rudalics
2008-08-27 12:54 ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-28 11:46 ` martin rudalics
2008-08-28 16:47 ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-28 21:26 ` martin rudalics
2008-08-29 7:39 ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-29 9:26 ` martin rudalics
2008-08-29 15:02 ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-30 8:15 ` martin rudalics
2008-08-30 11:06 ` Helmut Eller
2008-08-30 13:42 ` martin rudalics
2008-08-31 8:55 ` Helmut Eller
2008-09-06 11:56 ` martin rudalics
2008-09-09 6:24 ` Helmut Eller
2008-09-11 7:05 ` bug#745: marked as done (pop-to-buffer, frames, and input focus) Emacs bug Tracking System
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