From: David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net>
To: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: start emacs without creating frames and connect with emacsclient later
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:55:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48ADF25A.40102@harpegolden.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200808211720.m7LHKSne001960@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu>
Dan Nicolaescu wrote:
> "Richard M. Stallman" <rms@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > Should something like this go in? We do have a feature freeze, but this
> > is quite simple, and it completes the multi-tty functionality, which is
> > one of the major features of 23.1.
> >
> > I think it should go in
> > provided you write the text for etc/NEWS AND all the relevant manuals.
>
> I'll update the all the docs whenever it gets checked in.
>
> Here's a new version of the patch, now it has code to detach from the
> terminal, so it is a real daemon (how scary, emacs is haunted by daemons
> now).
>
FWIW (Which may not be much...), I'm not sure that
[not opening an initial frame yet retaining ability to open frames] and
[daemonizing (detaching from the process group)] and
[starting an emacsclient server]
should be conflated to quite such a degree.
IMO, a most useful use case for no initial full frame would be in
conjunction with systray support i.e. something like emacs --tray (or
better a customize variable) that means emacs docks into the systray
while obeying X session management.
That way one could start emacs like a mail client such as kmail,
at gui login, and it would be in the systray, popping up new frames
on left click, and perhaps having a right click menu
{new frame, start/stop server, quit} or the like.
Not sure any of that need to _daemonize_ though (not saying daemonizing
isn't useful!) - in fact it might be counterproductive, as emacs
might kind of "escape" the session manager.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-21 22:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-13 16:10 start emacs without creating frames and connect with emacsclient later Dan Nicolaescu
2008-08-13 16:40 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-13 20:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-08-14 5:19 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-14 17:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-08-15 12:44 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-15 15:25 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-08-21 17:20 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-08-21 22:55 ` David De La Harpe Golden [this message]
2008-08-21 23:55 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-08-22 5:59 ` tomas
2008-08-22 7:24 ` Paul R
2008-08-22 11:58 ` David Hansen
2008-09-01 14:03 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-09-01 14:02 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-09-01 18:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-01 23:11 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-09-02 19:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-03 6:43 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-09-03 6:50 ` martin rudalics
2008-09-03 11:53 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-09-03 12:38 ` martin rudalics
2008-09-03 20:14 ` Dan Nicolaescu
[not found] ` <jwv7i9tyzk5.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <200809211007.m8LA7TLQ014367@mothra.ics.uci.edu>
[not found] ` <87k5d5u359.fsf@cyd.mit.edu>
[not found] ` <jwvabe14o4w.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <200809211826.m8LIQBbq016320@mothra.ics.uci.edu>
[not found] ` <jwvskrt2tbz.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2008-09-21 23:36 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-08-15 15:36 ` Phil Jackson
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