From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thomas Lord Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release plans Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:20:23 -0700 Message-ID: <48A5BAD7.8030302@emf.net> References: <10697146.3630221218551689983.JavaMail.www@wwinf4615> <20080812171404.GB7999@muc.de> <20080813092057.GA3010@muc.de> <20080814083817.GA2593@muc.de> <877iak7xfp.fsf@skyscraper.fehenstaub.lan> <873al79akr.fsf@skyscraper.fehenstaub.lan> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218817896 25830 80.91.229.12 (15 Aug 2008 16:31:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, ams@gnu.org, Johannes Weiner , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 15 18:32:28 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KU2Du-0004Mm-Iu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:32:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37834 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KU2Cx-0006L3-35 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:31:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KU2CI-00065t-Tk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:30:43 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KU2CH-00065A-Bc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:30:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60564 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KU2CH-000653-5i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:30:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.42inc.com ([205.149.0.25]:45742) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (SSL 3.0:RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KU2C6-0008IS-QO; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:30:31 -0400 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.5 X-TFF-CGPSA-Filter-42inc: Scanned X-42-Virus-Scanned: by 42 Antivirus -- Found to be clean. Original-Received: from [69.236.75.128] (account lord@emf.net HELO [192.168.1.64]) by mail.42inc.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPA id 36956939; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:30:25 -0700 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060808) In-Reply-To: X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102499 Archived-At: Richard M. Stallman wrote: > Emacs has still no support to load shared libraries during runtime and > IIRC it was rejected back then due to political reasons. I call this > crippling. > > "Crippling" would imply making Emacs unusable, which it clearly isn't. > > The reason for my decision is to make sure that extension to Emacs are > free. The aim is to maximize what users can do while remaining free. > How does not providing dynamic loading maximize what users can do while remaining free? If they could dynamically load free libraries, surely their capabilities would be increased. I think you mean that your goal is to help GNU Emacs loyalists remain free even if it means you taking a blunt instrument to what users can do with their freedom. -t > > >