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From: Jean-Christophe Helary <lists@traduction-libre.org>
To: Kevin Vigouroux <ke.vigouroux@laposte.net>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs as a translator's tool
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 08:58:23 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48A51CD5-B85C-4C89-B4C0-1633C893782A@traduction-libre.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o859eokv.fsf@laposte.net>



> On Dec 22, 2021, at 4:37, Kevin Vigouroux via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> wrote:
> 
> The XLIFF standard does not define which documents should be supported.

XML *Localisation Interchange* File Format

As Eric says, the name strongly suggests document types and processes.

I'm not saying that's why OmegaT (for ex.) does not work internally with XLIFF, but that's definitely the reason why a generic translation tool should not focus on XLIFF support but just accept it as one of other file formats.

For one, when you translate, there are plenty of times when you need to modify the source, and having XLIFF in the process requires an extra conversion step each time you do so.

> The problem has more to do with your perception of the translation
> process, which is not defined by XLIFF.

Yes and no.

https://maxprograms.com/articles/analysis.html

> The application could display
> anything else, not just an XML file. What is interesting is that we can
> store and process data with XML.

Then you're talking about TMX, not XLIFF. *If* you want to stick to an XML based standard. PO is just as fine for a lot of use cases.


-- 
Jean-Christophe Helary @brandelune
https://mac4translators.blogspot.com
https://sr.ht/~brandelune/omegat-as-a-book/




  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-21 23:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 146+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-29  5:55 Emacs as a translator's tool Marcin Borkowski
2020-05-29  6:21 ` stardiviner
2020-05-29  6:35 ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-05-29  8:14   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-05-29  8:29     ` Yuri Khan
2020-05-29  8:35       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-05-29  9:59         ` tomas
2020-05-29 10:44           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-05-29 11:34             ` tomas
2020-05-29 11:51               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-05-29 12:02                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-30  1:33                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-05-30  3:12                     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-06-05  6:43                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-05  7:35                         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-06-05  7:55                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-05  8:14                             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-06-05 17:32                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-06-05 17:47                               ` Yuri Khan
2020-06-06  8:00                                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-06-05 23:23                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-31  5:14                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-06-01  8:53                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-01  8:26         ` Steinar Bang
2020-06-01  8:33           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-05-29 17:39       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-05-29 17:58         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-29 18:22           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-05-30  3:20             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-30  6:24               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-30  6:36                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-30 16:46               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-09-17 15:16             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-09-17 15:36               ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-17 16:03                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-09-17 18:14                   ` arthur miller
2020-09-17 18:27                     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-09-17 19:44                       ` arthur miller
2020-09-17 20:42                         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-09-18 17:36                           ` Sv: " arthur miller
2020-09-18 18:26                         ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-18 19:08                           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-09-18 20:02                             ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-18 20:17                               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-09-18 20:47                                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-18 21:23                                   ` tomas
2020-09-18 22:57                                     ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-19  7:32                                       ` tomas
2020-09-18 21:26                                   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-09-18 23:05                               ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-18 23:39                                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-12-20  7:00               ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-12-20 19:31                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-12-21  8:31                   ` Kevin Vigouroux via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-12-21  8:40                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-12-21 17:41                     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-12-21 19:37                       ` Kevin Vigouroux via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-12-21 20:22                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-12-22  7:14                           ` Kevin Vigouroux via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-12-22 18:36                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-12-21 23:58                         ` Jean-Christophe Helary [this message]
2021-12-22  7:36                           ` Kevin Vigouroux via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-12-22  6:46                       ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-12-22 17:50                         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-12-22 18:48                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-12-22 19:09                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-12-22 19:20                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-12-22 19:22                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-12-22 20:24                                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-12-23 17:57                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-12-23 21:59                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-12-28 16:22                                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-12-22 18:52                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-12-23 17:44                           ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-12-22 18:41                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-05-29  8:41     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-29  8:43       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-05-29  9:28         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-29 10:40           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-05-31  5:09     ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-06-01  8:51       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-04 19:47         ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-06-05  0:43           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-05  0:49             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-06-05  1:08               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-05  2:58                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-06-05  3:15                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-05  4:21                     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-06-05 10:46                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-06-05 12:11                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-05 17:19             ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-06-07 21:15               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-07 21:37                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-06-07 21:55                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-07 22:24                     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-06-07 22:30                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-08  6:04                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-06-08  6:30                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-08 11:59                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-08 12:15                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-08 12:34                         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-06-09 21:13                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-09 23:28                             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-06-10  0:12                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-10  3:21                                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-06-10  1:39                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-10  3:28                                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-06-10  3:47                                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-10  3:57                                     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-06-10  4:13                                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-10  6:19                                         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-06-10 11:49                                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-10 13:39                                             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-06-10 15:33                                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-08 19:45                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-06-08 20:44                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-09 19:32                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-06-09 20:54                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-10  2:03                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-10 13:35                             ` tomas
2020-06-10 13:38                               ` tomas
2020-06-10 15:27                                 ` recentering another window (was: Re: Emacs as a translator's tool) Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-10 20:56                             ` Emacs as a translator's tool Marcin Borkowski
2020-06-10 21:28                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-12 19:46                                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-06-12 22:02                                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-12 22:23                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-06-19 13:46                                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-19 13:51                                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-10 21:29                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-09 21:03                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-06-10  1:02                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-05-29  6:39 ` MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
2020-05-29  8:22   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-05-29  8:29   ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-05-29  6:57 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-29  8:03   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-29  8:30     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-05-29  8:26   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-05-29 14:28 ` Takesi Ayanokoji
2020-05-29 15:02 ` Giovanni Bono
2020-05-29 22:48   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-05-30  6:20     ` Giovanni Bono
2020-06-01  8:39       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-05-31  5:17   ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-05-31  6:58     ` Giovanni Bono

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