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From: Charles Millar <millarc@verizon.net>
To: Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com>, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Rationale behind conversion of a nil prefix arg to numeric 1
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2016 10:42:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <489a1e03-5586-be35-51dc-d5b667aa068e@verizon.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFyQvY1H+xdznPf30MP4QJUP4wCXtSXhNMedX=07bHVbrqRZDA@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/08/2016 09:10 AM, Kaushal Modi wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:41 PM Charles Millar <millarc@verizon.net 
> <mailto:millarc@verizon.net>> wrote:
>
>     I have read this thread as well as the other suggested readings. 
>
>     If the
>     purpose of either p or P is to pass arguments, I do not understand the
>     rationale of allowing C-u when using the interactive upper case P. 
>
>
> That's useful if the user wants the function to behave different based 
> on if the arg is a list or not.
>
>     As
>     noted above, It returns an integer as the only element in a list,
>     which
>     if evaluated returns an error.
>
>
> If the arg is a list (C-u), you have to treat it as a list.. e.g. use 
> (car arg).
>
>     Is there a use for this? 
>
>
> It's up to the user on how they want to treat different arg values.
>
>     Such as you may
>     want an error?
>
>
> Here's a dummy example:
>
> (defun foo (arg)
>   (interactive "P")
>   (message (concat "Arg is "
>                    (cond
>                     ((null arg)
>                      "nil")
>                     ((listp arg)
>                      (format "a list with element %d" (car arg)))
>                     (t
>                      (format "a number %d" arg))))))
> (global-set-key (kbd "C-c '") #'foo)''''
>
>
> After evaluating the above, do
>
> - C-c '
> - C-0 C-c ' or M-0 C-c '
> - C-1 C-c ' or M-1 C-c '
> - ..
> - C-u C-c '
> - C-4 C-c ' or M-4 C-c '
> - C-u C-u C-c '
> - C-1 C-6 C-c ' or M-1 M-6 C-c '
>
> If the user wishes, they can make the foo function behave differently 
> for each of the above bullets.
>
> So it eventually boils down to what the user wants.. do they want the 
> default arg to be nil or 1, do they want to support C-u and C-4 args 
> in different manner, etc. Based on that, they can choose to use the 
> "p" or "P" version of interactive.
> -- 

Thank you, Kaushal!

I suspect that the following has been said many times on this and other 
lists - "An example, as is a picture, is worth a 1000 words."

Charlie Millar



  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-08 14:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-04 12:23 Rationale behind conversion of a nil prefix arg to numeric 1 Florian v. Savigny
2016-09-04 14:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-04 17:11   ` Andreas Röhler
2016-09-04 18:33     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-05  7:16       ` Andreas Röhler
2016-09-05 14:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-05 15:22           ` Kaushal Modi
2016-09-05 16:32             ` Drew Adams
2016-09-05 18:41             ` Andreas Röhler
2016-09-05 19:02               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-06  7:10                 ` tomas
2016-09-06  9:45                   ` Florian v. Savigny
2016-09-06 10:27                     ` tomas
2016-09-06 11:27                     ` Andreas Röhler
2016-09-06 13:27                       ` Florian v. Savigny
2016-09-06 15:22                         ` Drew Adams
2016-09-06 14:20                       ` Kaushal Modi
2016-09-06 16:44                         ` Andreas Röhler
2016-09-06 16:41                           ` Kaushal Modi
2016-09-07 23:11                         ` Charles Millar
2016-09-08 13:10                           ` Kaushal Modi
2016-09-08 14:42                             ` Charles Millar [this message]
2016-09-08 15:40                           ` Drew Adams
2016-09-06  7:22                 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-09-05 17:04         ` Drew Adams
2016-09-05 21:39           ` Florian v. Savigny
     [not found]           ` <<877faqvxfp.fsf@bertrandrussell.Speedport_W_723V_1_40_000>
2016-09-05 23:32             ` Drew Adams
2016-09-06  3:45               ` B.V. Raghav
2016-09-04 22:53   ` Florian v. Savigny
     [not found]   ` <<87d1kjjmys.fsf@bertrandrussell.Speedport_W_723V_1_40_000>
2016-09-05  0:52     ` Drew Adams
2016-09-15 12:47 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen

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