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From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, david.reitter@gmail.com,
	Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>,
	andrew.w.nosenko@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, raman@users.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: line-move-visual never set to nil?
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:37:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48925AD7.8010907@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wsj160bf.fsf@catnip.gol.com>

Miles Bader wrote:
> "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:
>>> Macros do not -- and cannot -- make any guarantees about what happens if
>>> you execute them in a different environment, or on different text, than
>>> where they were recorded.
>> Do you mean that there is something that prevents us from temporary
>> turning things off during keyboard macro recording and execution? In
>> that case: what?
> 
> The point is that it doesn't actually help -- there are a million other
> cases that can trip up the user, and the only general solution is for
> users to be aware of problems that can crop up during macro replying and
> be fairly conservative in how they make macros.

I think this case is special. The special thing is the relation between 
the visual move and the buffer point. That relation changes according to 
something that is rather unrelated with the buffer contents but can 
easily be changed by the user. That makes the relation very volatile.

> Having commands work _differently_ during macro recording is guaranteed
> to confuse people, and doing so will probably cause as many problems as
> it "solves".
> 
> -Miles
> 




  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-01  0:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-26 17:43 line-move-visual never set to nil? T. V. Raman
2008-07-26 18:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-26 18:40   ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2008-07-26 18:44     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-26 18:48   ` David Reitter
2008-07-26 18:57 ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-26 19:38   ` T. V. Raman
2008-07-26 19:41     ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-27 18:46   ` David Reitter
2008-07-27 20:59     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-27 21:08       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-28  0:23         ` T. V. Raman
2008-07-29  7:43       ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2008-07-29 14:34         ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-29 14:43           ` Lennart Borgman
2008-07-29 16:27           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-29 18:31             ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-29 18:37               ` David Reitter
2008-07-29 19:18                 ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-29 19:23                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-29 19:59                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-29 21:23                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-30  0:31                 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-30  0:42                   ` David Reitter
2008-07-30  3:46           ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-30  4:43             ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-30  4:56               ` Miles Bader
2008-07-30  7:59               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-31 17:24             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-31 23:34               ` Miles Bader
2008-07-31 23:38                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-01  0:25                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-01  0:27                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-01  0:29                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-01  0:58                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-01  1:01                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-01  1:49                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-01  8:43                             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-01 18:19                           ` Richard M Stallman
2008-08-01 19:06                             ` Chong Yidong
2008-08-01 19:29                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-01  0:33                   ` Miles Bader
2008-08-01  0:37                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) [this message]
2008-08-01  0:46                       ` Miles Bader
2008-08-01  0:50                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-01 10:16                         ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2008-08-01  4:43               ` Richard M Stallman

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