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From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, david.reitter@gmail.com,
	Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>,
	andrew.w.nosenko@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, raman@users.sourceforge.net,
	Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: line-move-visual never set to nil?
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:29:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <489258D8.60602@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <489257E0.7010409@harpegolden.net>

David De La Harpe Golden wrote:
> Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote
>>> Macros do not -- and cannot -- make any guarantees about what happens if
>>> you execute them in a different environment, or on different text, than
>>> where they were recorded.
>>
>> Do you mean that there is something that prevents us from temporary
>> turning things off during keyboard macro recording and execution? In
>> that case: what?
>>
> 
> It'd be annoying?
> 
> It would break similarity between keyboard macros and normal editing.
> What if I _expected_ it to do things visually?
> 
> Yes, line-move-visual is kind of sucky for keyboard macros (as I've
> already said, I'd rather have visual line movement on separate bindings
> to normal/logical line movement). However, it turning off inside
> keyboard macro definition when it's otherwise on would IMO be pretty
> infuriatingly surprising.
> 
> Slightly contrived example - you're editing a wide table say,
> line-move-visual is on and you have set your window size to wrap at
> a table border, and then you notice a regular edit you're doing
> to the 4th (on the 1st visual line) and 17th columns (on the
> second visual line of the same logical line) could be repeated
> all the way down with a macro.  You try to use next-line, just as you
> would outside keyboard macro definition and have been using for
> the past 4 rows before the ol' brain kicked in and told you to
> press F3...

And if some lines wrap and others do not?

> In short, leave it on or leave it off, don't magically muck with it.


Maybe an option would be best IMO.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-08-01  0:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-26 17:43 line-move-visual never set to nil? T. V. Raman
2008-07-26 18:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-26 18:40   ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2008-07-26 18:44     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-26 18:48   ` David Reitter
2008-07-26 18:57 ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-26 19:38   ` T. V. Raman
2008-07-26 19:41     ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-27 18:46   ` David Reitter
2008-07-27 20:59     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-27 21:08       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-28  0:23         ` T. V. Raman
2008-07-29  7:43       ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2008-07-29 14:34         ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-29 14:43           ` Lennart Borgman
2008-07-29 16:27           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-29 18:31             ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-29 18:37               ` David Reitter
2008-07-29 19:18                 ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-29 19:23                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-29 19:59                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-29 21:23                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-30  0:31                 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-30  0:42                   ` David Reitter
2008-07-30  3:46           ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-30  4:43             ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-30  4:56               ` Miles Bader
2008-07-30  7:59               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-31 17:24             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-31 23:34               ` Miles Bader
2008-07-31 23:38                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-01  0:25                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-01  0:27                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-01  0:29                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) [this message]
2008-08-01  0:58                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-01  1:01                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-01  1:49                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-01  8:43                             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-01 18:19                           ` Richard M Stallman
2008-08-01 19:06                             ` Chong Yidong
2008-08-01 19:29                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-01  0:33                   ` Miles Bader
2008-08-01  0:37                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-01  0:46                       ` Miles Bader
2008-08-01  0:50                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-01 10:16                         ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2008-08-01  4:43               ` Richard M Stallman

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