From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Choice of fonts displaying etc/HELLO Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:03:44 +0100 Message-ID: <489082D0.9040706@gnu.org> References: <48900ED2.2000703@gnu.org> <4890670C.9000009@gnu.org> <48906865.4000808@gnu.org> <48907856.6040308@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217430367 2373 80.91.229.12 (30 Jul 2008 15:06:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs- devel To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 30 17:06:57 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KODEl-0002cn-Q3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:05:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35809 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KODDp-0002Nf-S1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:04:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KODDl-0002LM-RU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:04:09 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KODDj-0002K3-FL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:04:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59671 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KODDj-0002Jp-7h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:04:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mk-outboundfilter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.32]:49124) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KODDi-00064v-JF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:04:07 -0400 Original-X-Trace: 117171226/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-ACCEPTED/f2s-freedom2Surf-customers/83.67.23.108 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 83.67.23.108 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: jasonr@gnu.org X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EAMAfkEhTQxds/2dsb2JhbACBW4lEplY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,279,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="117171226" X-IP-Direction: IN Original-Received: from i-83-67-23-108.freedom2surf.net (HELO wanchan.jasonrumney.net) ([83.67.23.108]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2008 16:04:03 +0100 Original-Received: from [192.168.249.27] (chiko.jasonrumney.net [192.168.249.27]) by wanchan.jasonrumney.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27431B7; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:04:34 +0100 (BST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) In-Reply-To: <48907856.6040308@gnu.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=8086879D X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101757 Archived-At: Jason Rumney wrote: > Juanma Barranquero wrote: > >> In etc/HELLO there are two instances of U+2200 (FOR ALL). The newest >> release of DejaVu (2.26) added a glyph for that codepoint to DejaVu >> Sans Mono, which I use as default font. >> >> Now the weird thing is, the first FOR ALL in etc/HELLO is shown as >> >> character: ∀ (8704, #o21000, #x2200) >> preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) >> code point: 0x2200 >> syntax: . which means: punctuation >> category: h:Korean j:Japanese >> buffer code: #xE2 #x88 #x80 >> file code: ESC #x24 #x42 #x22 #x4F (encoded by coding system >> iso-2022-7bit-dos) >> display: by this font (glyph code) >> uniscribe:-outline-DejaVu Sans >> Mono-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso10646-1 (#x7A2) >> >> while the second one is >> >> character: ∀ (8704, #o21000, #x2200) >> preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) >> code point: 0x2200 >> syntax: . which means: punctuation >> category: h:Korean j:Japanese >> buffer code: #xE2 #x88 #x80 >> file code: ESC #x24 #x42 #x22 #x4F (encoded by coding system >> iso-2022-7bit-dos) >> display: by this font (glyph code) >> uniscribe:-outline-MS >> Mincho-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-jisx0208*-* (#x421) >> >> Shouldn't it use DejaVu Sans Mono for both? > > I have no idea why these use different fonts (even the file code is the > same, so it is not a difference in iso-2022 codepoints chosen), on my > installation both use MS Mincho (I probably have an older version of > DejaVu Mono that does not support that character). And why does that > character have a category of h:Korean j:Japanese? This is strange. After upgrading my DejaVu fonts to the latest version, both for-all signs are displayed using DejaVu Sans Mono. But I do now notice that the first has: There are text properties here: auto-composed t charset mule-unicode-0100-24ff while the second says: auto-composed t charset japanese-jisx0208 So probably the file code is different despite what file code is reported above that.