From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What does 'run' do in cperl-mode? Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:34:26 +0200 Message-ID: <488DF512.2020907@gmail.com> References: <0ded5ecd-f5f6-4a8e-9d19-f61bf0401022@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <86hcad9ar4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <0bb45e96-f9f3-4451-a457-004bb5930c76@p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <86wsj66sby.fsf@lifelogs.com> <6a01ec87-795c-4306-a698-d6d6ba85afdd@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217262906 16985 80.91.229.12 (28 Jul 2008 16:35:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Xah Lee Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 28 18:35:55 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KNVhT-00074a-Gw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:35:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38920 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KNVgZ-00080Q-EV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:34:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KNVgE-000808-MF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:34:38 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KNVgC-0007zt-KS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:34:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34551 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KNVgC-0007zq-Fw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:34:36 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]:34501) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KNVgC-0007bS-5c for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:34:36 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-151-176.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.151.176]:63813 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KNVgA-0007pH-7R; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:34:34 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <6a01ec87-795c-4306-a698-d6d6ba85afdd@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080728-0, 2008-07-28), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.151.176 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KNVgA-0007pH-7R. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1KNVgA-0007pH-7R bbb75b334de519684a98c7359f575d13 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:55991 Archived-At: Xah Lee wrote: > The cost of changing emacs's notation from “M-‹key›” to “Alt+‹key›” in > emacs's manual is about maybe 4 hour's work by a few interactive find- > replace operations in emacs, helped with eye balling. > > There is basically no cost to users. Any new user will immediately > understand “Alt+‹key›” and perhaps feel this is a great improvement. How do you know there is no cost to users? Why do you think they immediately understand "Alt+"? In the setup I recommend on w32 that will mean that they should type "Windows-key + ". I think I told you this before.