From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: basic question: going back to dired Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:43:46 +0200 Message-ID: <488AFFE2.5000201@gmail.com> References: <4884DC7F.6060406@gmail.com> <819feff4-76e3-4bf8-9ece-7b47f099efc2@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <87mykaw8sb.fsf@nonospaz.fatphil.org> <87myk828zm.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> <87y73rzd9b.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> <87hcadqth3.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> <87d4l19h de.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> <87wsj98008.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217069060 14776 80.91.229.12 (26 Jul 2008 10:44:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:44:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 26 12:45:10 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KMhGu-000850-BT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:45:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49041 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMhG0-0000AH-HU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:44:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KMhFe-00008v-BQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:43:50 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KMhFc-000082-Rm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:43:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59104 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMhFc-00007z-Lk for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:43:48 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.212]:42387) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KMhFc-0002bO-Af for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:43:48 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-151-176.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.151.176]:63421 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KMhFa-00069q-5n for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:43:47 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <87wsj98008.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080725-1, 2008-07-25), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.151.176 X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KMhFa-00069q-5n. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1KMhFa-00069q-5n f435db95c133d2f7b25e486b787e5927 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:55960 Archived-At: Tim X wrote: > To some extent, rightly or wrongly, I have the attitude, > step up or shut up. Sometimes I think so too, but othertimes I realize that the person complaining can't step up. There might be lack of time. For example if I want to contribute to Emacs I can't contribute to other pieces too, but I still think that my view can be worth considering for example if I test GNU/Linux (or any other free software). I do express my view about other freesoftware now and then. I do not demand any action, I just tell what I think could be improved and why. There may of course also be lack of knowledge of how to improve the software. You might for example be a usability expert without any knowledge of how to write software.