From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: basic question: going back to dired Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:45:08 +0200 Message-ID: <48891404.6070709@gmail.com> References: <4884DC7F.6060406@gmail.com> <200807250107.52890.juanma_bellon@yahoo.es> <48890CA9.4000602@gmail.com> <200807250142.16496.juanma_bellon@yahoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216943167 13380 80.91.229.12 (24 Jul 2008 23:46:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Juanma Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 25 01:46:56 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KMAWN-00088K-6r for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:46:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43642 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMAVS-0002dn-Ob for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:45:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KMAUz-0002VD-8Q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:45:29 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KMAUv-0002Pd-EV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:45:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33473 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMAUv-0002PF-28 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:45:25 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.212]:33036) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KMAUu-0005fM-FI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:45:24 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-151-176.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.151.176]:63543 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KMAUj-0004S3-3Q; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:45:16 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <200807250142.16496.juanma_bellon@yahoo.es> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080724-1, 2008-07-24), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.151.176 X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KMAUj-0004S3-3Q. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1KMAUj-0004S3-3Q ae70cdf6e2dd825f5be12b52812b4c82 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:55924 Archived-At: Juanma wrote: > On Friday 25 July 2008, Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote: >> The difficulties are in the details. You kind of use your body memory >> when doing such things. On Windows the menus does not work from the >> keyboard as in other programs by default and that defeats the body memory. > > Menus? What menus? > > If you hate C-x C-f you can rebind it (C-o in CUA, right?), you can use the > "disk key" as provided by disk.el, you have dired, or you get Windows > Explorer calling ... what was that? gnuclientw.exe? I think that's what I > used. I just browsed folders with Windows Explorer and pressed Enter on a > file, or 2*clicked it, or drag'n'dropped it into Emacs. > > In Emacs, and this is just an opinion, activating menus from keyboard is a > corner-case, not a normal (as in "frequently performed") procedure. But, if > that's your procedure, fine. But then, I don't think it's Emacs making it > difficult ... And what does this help if the new user presses Alt-F to open the file menu?