From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: basic question: going back to dired Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:30:48 +0200 Message-ID: <4888A028.6010906@gmail.com> References: <4884DC7F.6060406@gmail.com> <819feff4-76e3-4bf8-9ece-7b47f099efc2@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <87mykaw8sb.fsf@nonospaz.fatphil.org> <87myk828zm.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> <87y73rzd9b.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216913490 8199 80.91.229.12 (24 Jul 2008 15:31:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:31:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 17:32:19 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KM2nh-0005KG-Pz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:32:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38366 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KM2mo-0004F4-85 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:31:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KM2mR-0004Ei-IO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:30:59 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KM2mN-0004Cw-Mw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:30:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33107 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KM2mN-0004Cg-FN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:30:55 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]:59147) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KM2mM-000198-SG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:30:55 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-151-176.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.151.176]:59959 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KM2mK-0003qH-92 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:30:53 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <87y73rzd9b.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080724-1, 2008-07-24), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.151.176 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KM2mK-0003qH-92. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1KM2mK-0003qH-92 4663d84a7645ba604d5043a125b2aac3 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:55910 Archived-At: Tim X wrote: > Bastien writes: >> Those who say "Hey! The learning curve is too high." are those >> who don't really want/need Emacs. > > Exactly. Well said. I thought Bastien was joking there. Maybe I was misunderstanding, but when people complains about the learning curve I believe they are mostly saying "Hey! The learning curve in Emacs is to high. It did not take that long at all to learn to do the same thing in the other programs I tried."