From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: lord@emf.net, drobinow@gmail.com, hannes@saeurebad.de,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, acm@muc.de, miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:06:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4887C77C.2090109@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1KLhdM-0007WY-1W@fencepost.gnu.org>
Richard M Stallman wrote:
> IF making free programs working on
> windows helps promote GNU/Linux (or Herd) is not that good?
>
> Yes, but we can't assume in general that that is the case. For a few
> programs, such as OpenOffice and Firefox, the fact that they run on
> Windows seems to be a signficant aid to migration to GNU/Linux. But I
> don't see that this is true for other free programs.
The programs you mention are end user programs. That they are (or seem
to be) an aid is perhaps rather easy to detect since the effect is
rather immediate.
Developers programs might not have an immediate effect, but I believe
the long time aid might be much larger. This effect is more difficult to
detect since it is a long time effect. And even so since a lot of things
must cooperate before user sees the effect.
It looks to me that the Mozilla people have drawn a similar conclusion
since they offer their own portable platform for development (XUL).
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2008-07-11 0:02 ` Emacs vista build failures Eric Hanchrow
2008-07-11 16:49 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-11 19:05 ` David Robinow
2008-07-11 23:33 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-12 7:57 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-12 16:35 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-12 17:21 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-13 9:35 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-13 9:46 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-14 11:05 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-11 19:17 ` David Robinow
2008-07-11 20:39 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-11 20:45 ` David Robinow
2008-07-11 20:57 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-12 16:35 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-12 19:46 ` Bastien Guerry
2008-07-12 20:17 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-12 10:49 ` Bastien Guerry
2008-07-12 16:35 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-12 20:40 ` David Robinow
2008-07-12 22:47 ` Bastien
2008-07-13 19:10 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-13 20:44 ` Claus
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2008-07-14 8:43 ` Claus
2008-07-15 3:06 ` Eric Hanchrow
2008-07-14 17:38 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-13 20:46 ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-13 21:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-13 21:40 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-13 22:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-13 22:53 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-13 23:46 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-14 10:27 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-14 11:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-14 17:39 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-14 19:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-15 18:04 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-15 20:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-15 21:02 ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-15 23:42 ` Thomas Lord
2008-07-16 1:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-16 1:58 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-16 2:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-16 3:01 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-16 4:44 ` Thomas Lord
2008-07-16 4:43 ` Thomas Lord
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2008-07-14 12:24 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-14 12:20 ` joakim
2008-07-14 12:32 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-15 18:04 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-13 21:48 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-13 23:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-13 23:22 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-14 20:42 ` Don Armstrong
2008-07-14 21:05 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-16 14:36 ` Manoj Srivastava
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2008-07-16 22:04 ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-07-16 21:23 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
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2008-07-17 8:31 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
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2008-07-14 23:54 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-07-15 1:05 ` Debian's idiosyncratic complexification of Emacs Miles Bader
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2008-07-16 14:22 ` Manoj Srivastava
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2008-07-18 9:08 ` Agustin Martin
2008-07-15 1:38 ` Debian's idiosyncratic complexification of Emacs [Was: Emacs vista build failures] Don Armstrong
2008-07-15 2:20 ` Debian's idiosyncratic complexification of Emacs Stefan Monnier
2008-07-15 6:43 ` Don Armstrong
2008-07-15 6:55 ` Debian's idiosyncratic complexification of Emacs [Was: Emacs vista build failures] Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-07-15 10:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-15 10:08 ` Debian's idiosyncratic complexification of Emacs David Kastrup
2008-07-16 14:09 ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-07-16 16:34 ` Stefan Monnier
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2008-07-22 4:27 ` Miles Bader
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2008-07-24 17:44 ` Manoj Srivastava
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2008-07-14 19:56 ` Alan Mackenzie
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