From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:00:57 +0200 Message-ID: <4885F629.4040409@gmail.com> References: <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <487C5FA3.4070603@emf.net> <87zloggji9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878wvxxkn6.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ej5oz4pb.fsf@saeurebad.de> <87vdyzxype.fsf@saeurebad.de> <871w1njq32.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87iquzxgtk.fsf@saeurebad.de> <4884CFEF.8040404@gmail.com> <87ej5nxew2.fsf@saeurebad.de> <87wsje37rg.fsf@saeurebad.de> <86mykaggmk.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <4885EA77.5030208@gmail.com> <86ej5mgf05.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <4885F31E.8080408@gmail.com> <86abgagee2.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216738930 26679 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2008 15:02:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Johannes Weiner , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 22 17:02:58 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLJNa-0000D0-Fd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:02:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59914 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLJMh-0002sI-5k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:01:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLJMb-0002rh-Bo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:01:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLJMZ-0002rP-85 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:01:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54807 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLJMZ-0002rM-2e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:01:15 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.213]:39896) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLJMP-0000iO-9b; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:01:05 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-151-176.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.151.176]:59691 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KLJMK-000249-8s; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:01:00 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <86abgagee2.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080722-0, 2008-07-22), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.151.176 X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KLJMK-000249-8s. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1KLJMK-000249-8s f961287635bf818df6a0d36de530791c X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101211 Archived-At: David Kastrup wrote: >>>> Why don't you use perl for example instead? >>> Chicken and egg. Installation scripts have to rely on what is there. >> But you can build exectutable from perl scripts, or is not that >> possibility there any more? > > It means pulling in a lot of external technology for just a simple > scripting job. Why should we do that if what is present in Windows is > so great? I guess you know perl, of course. I might misunderstand what you are actually doing. There is vbs too and different installation software. But let us drop this, I just wanted to give a suggestion. I agree this is a weak and disturbing point on w32, escpecially when you are used to have powerful scripting languages available. This is however not what w32 programmers use.