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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101113 Archived-At: Johannes Weiner wrote: > Hi, > > "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" writes: > >> Johannes Weiner wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" writes: >>> >>>> Johannes Weiner wrote: >>>>>> Doing so _manually_ (as a shell script or something) is not particularly >>>>>> hard if you have simple needs. If you're using some other build tool, >>>>>> it should often be fairly straight-forward to use that tool with a thin >>>>>> layer on top to implement the GNU configure interface. >>>>> It would be cool to have shell libraries you could use for whipping your >>>>> own configure. I.e. no m4 macros but powerful shell functions you can >>>>> just call. >>>> And once again: If this did not work easily on w32 too it might stop >>>> people from using it. >>> To be honest, I couldn't give the slightest about w32. It's a pile of >>> crap that should have never seen the light of day, all political issues >>> left aside and I, FWIW, would not consider it when designing software. >> >> I not sure why you tell me that. I see no reason why I should be >> interested in your opinion about it. >> >> I am interested in getting the free software movement forward and "I >> know best" attitudes will not help. > > No offence. You suggested it should work on Windows in a reply to me. > So I stated my opinion about it. > > I am also interested in getting the free software movement forward. I > just don't have any idea how that relates to Windows. Thanks Hannes! Let us keep up the good work. I presented (in this thread I believe) some of my arguments about why to care about w32 too in my reply to RMS about a portable mini-bash. I might be wrong, my arguments might be bad, but I tried to give some arguments.