From: Justin Bogner <mail@justinbogner.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: NeXTStep port preferences
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:04:38 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4884A586.8050704@justinbogner.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <loom.20080720T144956-560@post.gmane.org>
Adrian Robert wrote:
> Some users differ. There are many use cases calling for frequent
> font and/or modifier key changes. We'd need a poll to get better
> data.
>
It would probably be quite difficult, but if we're going to provide a preference
pane for frequently changed settings, wouldn't it make sense to put something in
the customize panes to set what options showed up in the dialog?
>> - The options to change the cursor are probably not important enough
>> to have here.
>
> Again, see above. I use different types of cursors for editing
> different files (coding, text, etc.), and it's nice to switch
> quickly.
>
This looks like a job for a hook, it would surely be more convenient if the
cursor changed automatically when you wanted it to.
>>> Otherwise, at least in this case, there's no real reason not to just
>>> use the X11 version on OS X
>> The inconvenience of having to start X11 to edit files or to read mail
>> and probably missing features (e.g. does DnD work from Finder to
>> Emacs?).
>
> It would be far easier to add these features to Apple's X11 impl
> than to port and maintain a separate interface to GNU Emacs. And
> they would provide wider benefit.
>
It is far more convenient and pleasant to use a native application than one
nested under another window system, no matter how well integrated that other
window system is. The behaviour of a window in X11 is inherently different
(though perhaps subtly) from that of a cocoa window.
For example, consider the copy and paste by highlighting text semantics of X11.
When working purely in X11 this is a nice feature, when working purely outside
of X11 the lack of this feature isn't too much of an annoyance, but when working
between an X window and a non-X window, the difference in behaviour is quite
annoying.
However much fixing the deficiencies in Apple's X11 might improve the
experience, it could not be as smooth an experience as a native interface.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-21 15:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-16 5:36 NeXTStep port preferences David Reitter
2008-07-17 17:32 ` Adrian Robert
2008-07-19 11:18 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2008-07-20 15:05 ` Adrian Robert
2008-07-20 16:53 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2008-07-21 15:04 ` Justin Bogner [this message]
2008-07-19 15:59 ` David Reitter
2008-07-19 16:01 ` David Reitter
2008-07-19 16:21 ` Adrian Robert
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