From: Thomas Link <t.link@gmx.at>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: isearch multiple buffers
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:53:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4884325C.3090304@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874p6kuz1f.fsf@jurta.org>
Hi,
Somebody put me on the cc list. I currently don't use emacs and (to my
knowledge) I'm not??? the present maintainer of filesets but I'd like to
comment on a few statements.
> filesets.el is a promising package with presently poor user interface.
> It displays a list of selected buffers only in the menu (not available
> when the menu is turned off) or in a Customize buffer that displays one
> customizable variable as a set of files.
AFAIK emacs provides a way to access menus from the command line. Also,
filesets commands can be used without using the menu. IIRC you also have
command line completion for the most important commands. On many (all?)
platforms/GUI toolkits, the menu can be torn off. The menu will then
remain open after having selected an item. Menus are quite versatile.
Back then, it thus looked like a good idea to me to use menus.
> I think a better way to display
> filesets would be UI like provided by buffer-list, i.e. a special buffer
> that displays a set of files and allows easily doing operations on them.
>
Today, I'd actually prefer this (or a similar) approach. The filesets
data becomes quite big after a while and the data is kept in memory all
the time. It thus seems preferable to display the information in an
emacs buffer that can be unloaded when not in use. Actually, today I'd
rather save the information as plain text file and implement the
functionality as a "filesets mode". This would also provide for a way to
easily split the filesets data into subsets. Emacs folding/outline mode
could be used as rather low-diet ui.
Another option would be to integrate it with sidebar, which solves a not
all too different problem. I have never used sidebar on the terminal though.
I assume though that most (new) users would prefer menus because most
other applications they use work this way -- unless they have already
reached the point where they use emacs for everything :-) .
> On the www site of the filesets project I've found a file filesets2.el
> that contains features missing in the Emacs version of filesets.el.
> These features provide integration with dired and ibuffer: there are
> special commands to add a buffer from the ibuffer's buffer list to
> a fileset, and to add dired marked buffers to a fileset. I wonder
> why the author didn't include them to Emacs.
>
Back then I used xemacs most of the time (mostly because compilation was
slightly easier on cygwin/windows). xemacs has cl loaded by default, and
I considered it preferable to use its functions. I don't think this
version has been thoroughly tested with emacs.
Regards,
Thomas.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-21 6:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 164+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-06 19:52 isearch multiple buffers Juri Linkov
2007-10-07 15:37 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-08 18:03 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-08 19:18 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-08 19:59 ` Eric Hanchrow
2007-10-08 22:52 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-11 9:25 ` Johan Bockgård
2007-10-11 9:45 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-11 14:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-11 23:48 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-11 17:41 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-11 23:52 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-12 8:42 ` Johan Bockgård
2007-10-12 15:59 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-12 16:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-20 0:08 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-21 7:26 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-21 20:37 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-21 23:39 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-21 23:50 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-22 0:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-22 1:01 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-23 7:12 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23 8:17 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-23 17:53 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23 20:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-23 21:44 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-10-24 4:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25 2:10 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-24 8:33 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-23 23:33 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-24 0:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-24 4:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-24 5:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-24 19:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-24 4:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-24 4:51 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-24 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-24 23:55 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-25 4:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25 6:21 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-25 20:55 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-25 21:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25 11:02 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-10-25 22:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 1:30 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-10-26 9:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 10:05 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-10-29 0:08 ` Michael Olson
2007-10-26 15:16 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-26 15:32 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-26 15:36 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-26 15:42 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-26 18:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-26 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 19:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 19:41 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-26 20:01 ` Jason Rumney
2007-10-26 20:19 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-26 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 20:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-27 13:57 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-27 15:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-28 13:50 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-27 17:28 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-27 22:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-28 13:50 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 13:50 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 16:45 ` desupporting X10 and old X11 releases (was: Re: isearch multiple buffers) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-29 7:30 ` desupporting X10 and old X11 releases Jan Djärv
2007-10-29 19:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-30 7:33 ` Jan Djärv
2007-10-29 23:35 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-30 13:52 ` Ulrich Mueller
2007-10-31 7:46 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-29 9:21 ` desupporting X10 and old X11 releases (was: Re: isearch multiple buffers) Richard Stallman
2007-10-29 9:21 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 18:38 ` abandon K&R C ?(was: " Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-29 9:21 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-29 19:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-29 23:41 ` abandon K&R C ? Miles Bader
2007-10-29 7:21 ` isearch multiple buffers Jan Djärv
2007-10-29 23:35 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-31 3:35 ` remove support for Sun windows (was Re: isearch multiple buffers) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-31 23:57 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-01 3:09 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-11-01 7:44 ` isearch multiple buffers Jan Djärv
2007-11-09 8:26 ` List of platforms to delete (was: Re: isearch multiple buffers) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-25 6:47 ` isearch multiple buffers martin rudalics
2007-10-25 7:02 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-25 8:26 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-25 11:08 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-25 11:19 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-25 14:03 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-25 14:08 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-25 20:54 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-25 21:56 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-25 7:45 ` 8.3 filename restriction Kenichi Handa
2007-10-25 10:53 ` tomas
2007-10-25 22:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25 12:36 ` martin rudalics
2007-10-25 22:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25 21:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 3:48 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-22 0:33 ` isearch multiple buffers Juri Linkov
2007-10-22 23:48 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-23 7:12 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23 7:12 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23 23:59 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-24 0:32 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-24 16:31 ` buffer order [was: isearch multiple buffers] Drew Adams
2007-10-25 0:47 ` buffer order Miles Bader
2007-10-24 21:33 ` isearch multiple buffers Juri Linkov
2007-10-24 22:52 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-24 8:33 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-24 21:23 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-25 9:01 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-25 20:57 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-25 21:51 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-26 23:05 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 0:01 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-27 0:19 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 7:22 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-27 16:20 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 22:54 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 23:37 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28 1:31 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-28 13:50 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 15:03 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-29 9:21 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-27 23:41 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 0:18 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28 1:32 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-28 3:22 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28 4:14 ` Luc Teirlinck
2007-10-28 10:52 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 0:13 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 2:10 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-27 2:39 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 3:46 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-27 4:29 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 23:27 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-28 0:10 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28 1:33 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 13:58 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-27 16:20 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 22:47 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 23:26 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28 13:51 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-25 9:01 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-09 20:03 ` Richard Stallman
2008-07-20 0:40 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-20 4:11 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-20 19:34 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-20 17:21 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-20 19:38 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 3:29 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-21 9:07 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 6:53 ` Thomas Link [this message]
2008-07-21 9:09 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 10:42 ` Thomas Link
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