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Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>     ;; Assume character codes 0240 - 0377 stand for characters in some

> Indeed, it's not valid any more.
> It should probably try something like
> 
>   (aref (decode-coding-string (unibyte-string char) locale-coding-system) 0)
> 
> instead, tho I'd argue that we should drop this feature and insert the
> corresponding Unicode char instead (which would give the latin-1
> equivalent as well).
> 


While I agree that having it just be unicode simplifies matters,
couldn't doing the translation again pretty easily be made a
customisable "read-quoted-char-use-locale-coding-system" boolean ?

... but should that be
read-quoted-char-use-buffer-file-coding-system  ?
- i.e. if you open an iso8859-15 file, and "C-q a4" (assuming hex radix)
, you get a euro sign inserted?

- it just strikes me people with non unicode locales (or files)
are  some of the most likely to want to enter characters by number from
the relevant non-unicode charset...