From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:36:52 +0200 Message-ID: <4883A1E4.4010502@gmail.com> References: <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807111217m66d6cf4el777c197c107ce034@mail.gmail.com> <87skug6tq5.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4eb0089f0807111345h13eccdds9b2cf43370b94074@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807121340x5e26f6dbve03ef50b238f3a3a@mail.gmail.com> <87k5fph5rh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080713214648.GB1076@muc.de> <20080714195651.GF3445@muc.de> <487C5FA3.4070603@emf.net> <87zloggji9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878wvxxkn6.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216586257 15055 80.91.229.12 (20 Jul 2008 20:37:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:37:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, lord@emf.net, drobinow@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Miles Bader To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 20 22:38:25 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KKffk-00011f-Em for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:38:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33101 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KKfer-00063r-Fb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:37:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KKfen-00063m-Kp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:37:25 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KKfel-00063Z-8s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:37:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44738 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KKfel-00063W-3Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:37:23 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.212]:43185) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KKfec-0007su-RT; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:37:15 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-145-59.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.145.59]:62271 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KKfeb-0001iV-3S; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:37:13 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080720-0, 2008-07-20), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.145.59 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KKfeb-0001iV-3S. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1KKfeb-0001iV-3S f45579960716ebe7c06b337d25099e91 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101029 Archived-At: Richard M Stallman wrote: > > That is good news, but the general problem remains > > as far as I know. Has there been a general move towards > > supporting the GNU configure and build specs? > > As far as I know (I don't hack on X, I just read the mailing list), the > entire build infrastructure was replaced, and you can now do > "./configure ...; make" etc., and things work in the normal GNU > style. > > We are miscommunicating. As regards X itself, I took for granted that > that is what you meant. > > My question concerns looking beyond X to the free software community > as a whole. Has there been a broader move towords supporting the GNU > configure and build specs? I can't help but thinking about the problems with building Emacs itself on w32. Is not one of the problems there the lack of a sh/bash or whatever that can easily be used when building Emacs? Something like a portable mini-bash (with more limited capabilities) that runs also on w32 and could be used together with w32 programs would perhaps make this better.