From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thomas Lord Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:34:46 -0700 Message-ID: <48825DF6.2010302@emf.net> References: <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807111217m66d6cf4el777c197c107ce034@mail.gmail.com> <87skug6tq5.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4eb0089f0807111345h13eccdds9b2cf43370b94074@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807121340x5e26f6dbve03ef50b238f3a3a@mail.gmail.com> <87k5fph5rh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080713214648.GB1076@muc.de> <20080714195651.GF3445@muc.de> <487C5FA3.4070603@emf.net> <487FDE3B.2020208@emf.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216500411 24502 80.91.229.12 (19 Jul 2008 20:46:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:46:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, karl@gnu.org, drobinow@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 19 22:47:39 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KKJL8-0008NX-U6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:47:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41846 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KKJKG-0007H3-1u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:46:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KKJKC-0007G2-4o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:46:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KKJK9-0007Du-7S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:46:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33188 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KKJK9-0007Dn-3s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:46:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.42inc.com ([205.149.0.25]:60184) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (SSL 3.0:RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KKJK1-0001KU-CL; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:46:29 -0400 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.5 X-TFF-CGPSA-Filter-42inc: Scanned X-42-Virus-Scanned: by 42 Antivirus -- Found to be clean. Original-Received: from [69.236.114.9] (account lord@emf.net HELO [192.168.1.64]) by mail.42inc.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPA id 35295435; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:46:14 -0700 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060808) In-Reply-To: X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100996 Archived-At: Richard M Stallman wrote: > I'm interested in seeing what ideas you have for improving our > build and installation specs, etc. I have cc'd Karl Berry > hoping that in a few days he will set up another list where we can > discuss that. > Thank you. I hope that will develop into a productive conversation rather than a dud. I should caution that between now and a few days into August I will be very busy because we're in the middle of a household move. I have lots of packing to do, shelves to build, etc. So I will have to get off to a slow start in that discussion. (This is probably helpful, as a side effect: I can better collect and organize my thoughts that way.) I trust that Karl will ping us when the mailing list is ready. > And thanks for explaining that the harsh-sounding words were not meant > that way. > > I am consistently surprised at the different measures I find among people I know about what is or is not harsh, insulting, etc. This is both in reaction to things I say and in reaction to things others say. -t