From: David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net>
To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: juri@jurta.org, tzz@lifelogs.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>, Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: inputting characters by hexadigit
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:33:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4880D3E4.7050400@harpegolden.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vdz3p3om.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> > Yes, that sounds like a good syntax to me -- I think it's important that
> > it be easy to remember, because many people will use it only
> > occasionally.
>
> Agreed, but how about trying the syntax everybody actually uses: `C-q
> U+00C0'?
Well, quibbling, but not sure that everybody uses that for _input_.
Gtk+/GOME apps, firefox use C-s-U 00C0 for example (yes I know that's
not a runner for emacs, where C-u, sometimes indistinguishable from
C-s-U, is already an important keypress).
More importantly: Does C-q still do language-environment based
translations for octal input #o200 -> #o377 ? Manual node "Inserting
Text" says it does, but it doesn't seem to be doing quite what it says
I'm not 100% on what it is doing - embedding the raw byte?
Funny thing is e.g. C-q 23030 embeds U+2618 as expected.
I was, not necessarily for any particularly good reason, thinking that
entering C-q #xnumber-in-hexadecimal would always do _exactly_ what the
same C-q number-in-octal does ( in turn same as C-q
number-in-hexadecimal with a hex read-quoted-char-radix). => If
translations as documented in the manual are happening, that would mean
that number is _not_ necessarily simply a unicode code and C-q U+ could
be misleading.
OTOH,if it departed from that C-q octal behaviour and _always_ inserted
the _unicode_ char, well, then C-q U+ would seem fairly appropriate.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-18 17:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 160+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-15 17:41 describe-char should display the character's Unicode name Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-15 20:42 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-16 2:29 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-17 0:35 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-17 1:26 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-17 14:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-17 23:40 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-18 0:10 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-18 0:47 ` inputting characters by hexadigit Kenichi Handa
2008-07-18 0:54 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-18 1:01 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-18 4:48 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-18 12:39 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-18 16:17 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-07-18 17:33 ` David De La Harpe Golden [this message]
2008-07-18 18:08 ` James Cloos
2008-07-18 18:59 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-07-18 21:29 ` James Cloos
2008-07-19 0:30 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 1:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-21 5:35 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-22 22:59 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-22 23:17 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-22 23:29 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-29 16:07 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-29 18:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-19 5:49 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-07-19 0:13 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-19 0:29 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-19 0:27 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-20 20:28 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 1:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-21 5:07 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-21 6:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-21 9:01 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 11:04 ` Johan Bockgård
2008-07-21 11:11 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 14:20 ` Johan Bockgård
2008-07-21 14:24 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 14:33 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-21 14:37 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 19:25 ` James Cloos
2008-07-21 19:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-21 20:23 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-21 20:38 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-21 21:49 ` Johan Bockgård
2008-07-21 22:03 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 23:37 ` Johan Bockgård
2008-07-22 1:26 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-22 22:52 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 20:31 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 20:36 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-21 20:43 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 20:50 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-21 21:12 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 21:03 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-21 21:24 ` Drew Adams
2008-07-22 4:03 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-21 21:06 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-22 4:04 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-21 20:31 ` James Cloos
2008-07-21 21:11 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-21 23:43 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-22 4:06 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-21 16:54 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-21 17:04 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-21 6:16 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-22 0:51 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-22 7:56 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-22 8:33 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-22 10:57 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-22 12:26 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-22 12:33 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-22 12:35 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-22 16:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-22 16:54 ` Drew Adams
2008-07-22 20:38 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-22 22:55 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 0:08 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-23 2:18 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-22 22:54 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 0:28 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-23 1:02 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-23 2:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-23 3:18 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-23 3:38 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-23 3:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-23 4:26 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-23 19:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-23 20:26 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-23 9:03 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 10:15 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-23 14:27 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 14:58 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-22 14:06 ` Drew Adams
2008-07-23 13:01 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-23 13:05 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-23 13:44 ` Drew Adams
2008-07-23 14:27 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 19:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-23 22:32 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-24 2:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-29 15:51 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-29 17:33 ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-29 17:51 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-29 19:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-29 20:51 ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-30 15:29 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-31 19:20 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-18 0:38 ` describe-char should display the character's Unicode name Kenichi Handa
2008-07-18 0:58 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-18 13:33 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-18 13:53 ` Drew Adams
2008-07-18 14:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-18 15:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-19 0:45 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 16:35 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-21 16:35 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-21 16:58 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-22 22:57 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 14:47 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-23 22:31 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 22:52 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24 13:29 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 13:39 ` Lennart Borgman
2008-07-24 15:27 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 15:34 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-25 0:41 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-25 2:24 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-19 0:35 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-19 1:11 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-20 0:29 ` inputting characters by hexadigit Juri Linkov
2008-07-20 1:23 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-20 20:27 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 14:37 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-23 19:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-23 20:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 2:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-24 13:20 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 13:40 ` Lennart Borgman
2008-07-24 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-24 15:25 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 16:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-24 17:00 ` Drew Adams
2008-07-24 18:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 18:37 ` Drew Adams
2008-07-28 13:56 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 20:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-24 20:27 ` Drew Adams
2008-07-24 20:37 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24 21:30 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24 21:59 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-28 14:00 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-23 22:35 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 23:00 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24 2:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-25 0:52 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-24 13:24 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 15:55 ` Drew Adams
2008-07-19 0:35 ` describe-char should display the character's Unicode name Juri Linkov
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