From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: Thomas Lord <lord@emf.net>
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, Richard M Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
drobinow@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:54:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <487C579F.3020800@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <487C5FA3.4070603@emf.net>
Thomas Lord wrote:
> The most important thing in such a large effort as a complete system
> is the standards: standards for coding, for documentation, for
> source code management, for configuration, build, install, patching and
> rebuild/reinstall, and uninstall.
Yes, standards is the key to success.
There are probably other areas for standards that could be mentioned
too. One could for example think about OpenOffice and the struggle to
implement an open standard for word processors.
I find it hard to imagine that GNU/Linux will not be dominating when
there are (in a bright future) adequate standards. Before that time I
find it hard to believe that GNU/Linux can dominate.
This is because standards makes it much easier to build on the work of
others - and the idea of doing that is at the bottom of GNU/Linux IMO.
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2008-07-11 23:33 ` Richard M Stallman
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2008-07-13 9:35 ` Richard M Stallman
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2008-07-14 11:05 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-11 19:17 ` David Robinow
2008-07-11 20:39 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-11 20:45 ` David Robinow
2008-07-11 20:57 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-12 16:35 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-12 19:46 ` Bastien Guerry
2008-07-12 20:17 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-12 10:49 ` Bastien Guerry
2008-07-12 16:35 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-12 20:40 ` David Robinow
2008-07-12 22:47 ` Bastien
2008-07-13 19:10 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-13 20:44 ` Claus
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2008-07-14 8:43 ` Claus
2008-07-15 3:06 ` Eric Hanchrow
2008-07-14 17:38 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-13 20:46 ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-13 21:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-13 21:40 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-13 22:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-13 22:53 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-13 23:46 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-14 10:27 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-14 11:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-14 17:39 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-14 19:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-15 18:04 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-15 20:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-15 21:02 ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-15 23:42 ` Thomas Lord
2008-07-16 1:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-16 1:58 ` Miles Bader
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2008-07-16 3:01 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-16 4:44 ` Thomas Lord
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2008-07-14 12:24 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-14 12:20 ` joakim
2008-07-14 12:32 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-15 18:04 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-13 21:48 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-13 23:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-13 23:22 ` David Kastrup
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2008-07-15 1:38 ` Debian's idiosyncratic complexification of Emacs [Was: Emacs vista build failures] Don Armstrong
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2008-07-15 6:43 ` Don Armstrong
2008-07-15 6:55 ` Debian's idiosyncratic complexification of Emacs [Was: Emacs vista build failures] Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-07-15 10:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-07-15 10:08 ` Debian's idiosyncratic complexification of Emacs David Kastrup
2008-07-16 14:09 ` Manoj Srivastava
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