From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: gdb-ui, dedicated windows Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:03:43 +0200 Message-ID: <4872A0CF.3060208@gmail.com> References: <87zlowwyn1.fsf@localhorst.mine.nu> <18543.18102.11098.763936@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <18545.42910.825681.693892@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87tzf18p5o.fsf@localhorst.mine.nu> <87vdzh70ik.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1215471851 22466 80.91.229.12 (7 Jul 2008 23:04:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 23:04:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Hansen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 08 01:04:58 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KFzlR-0002As-66 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:04:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46190 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KFzka-0001GL-2F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:04:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KFzkV-0001G8-JR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:03:59 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KFzkT-0001Fo-5x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:03:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44668 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KFzkS-0001Fl-WF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:03:57 -0400 Original-Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.149.212]:33263) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KFzkS-0006nj-DU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:03:56 -0400 Original-Received: from c83-254-145-59.bredband.comhem.se ([83.254.145.59]:64397 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KFzkL-0006C6-3k; Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:03:51 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 In-Reply-To: <87vdzh70ik.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080707-0, 2008-07-07), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Originating-IP: 83.254.145.59 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KFzkL-0006C6-3k. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1KFzkL-0006C6-3k 6b99262cac8714c4ab7e65b74869be0e X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100436 Archived-At: Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > David Hansen writes: > > > Just a bit curious, isn't it the window managers job to put the window > > into full screen? > > It is, in fact if you are running a window manager under X11 it's the > only way to do it. The window manager will simply clip the client's > window to what it has decided to allow. > > The problem is that there are many options regarding what "maximize" > means: > > 1. Is it in response to the user (eg, clicking a maximize button on > the frame) or the client (eg, obeying a "start me maximized" > resource)? > 2. Which dimensions are maximized (horizontal, vertical, both)? > 3. Are window decorations maintained for the maximized window? > 4. Are window and session manager widgets (panel, taskbar, etc) > allowed to be covered? > > Distinction (1) is essential to usability; you need to be able to do > both. Many users don't care so much about flexibility in areas (2), > (3), and (4), but others do. One of the projects of freedesktop.org > (somebody referred to that as "fd.o") is to provide a standard > protocol for any client and window manager that allows all of these > parameters to be set in a flexible way. Another essential thing is the placement of the maximized window.