From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ali Bahrami Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Question about dumping emacs under Solaris Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:52:37 -0600 Message-ID: <486E8D95.8090703@emvision.com> References: <486DA1C5.7030304@emvision.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1215204787 19319 80.91.229.12 (4 Jul 2008 20:53:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 20:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 04 22:53:53 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KEsHq-0006DA-Us for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:53:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51668 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KEsH0-0008K0-2Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:52:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KEsGv-0008JT-Lq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:52:49 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KEsGt-0008IX-5i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:52:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51985 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KEsGt-0008IU-2w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:52:47 -0400 Original-Received: from vc7-1-94b.dsl.netrack.net ([199.45.162.234]:16975 helo=emvision.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KEsGl-0002iY-Er; Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:52:39 -0400 Original-Received: from pod.emvision.com (pod.emvision.com [198.182.198.2]) by emvision.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m64KqcDT029731; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:52:38 -0600 (MDT) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) In-Reply-To: X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (emvision.com [198.182.198.5]); Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:52:38 -0600 (MDT) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100358 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:06:29 -0600 >> From: Ali Bahrami >> >> Can anyone shed any light on what GNU ld extensions are not >> properly handled by the Solaris dldump()? I know that 2002 >> was a while ago, and possibly no one remembers, but it >> would be helpful to know what went wrong. > > Did you try looking at bug-gnu-emacs archives around the time this > change was committed? I had not, purely due to ignorance. Thanks for pointing it out. I did do a google search, so perhaps I did indirectly. Anyway, I just went back and looked. There seems to be just this one: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2002-08/msg00203.html I bet this is the message that got dldump() into emacs. I didn't find any other message mentioning dldump() at all, so the reason for yanking it is probably lost in time. I did a bit more googling also, and found several messages involving xemacs and dldump(). So I went and had a look at xemacs 21.5. It *does* use dldump(). This change must have happened before the emacs/xemacs split, and then one fork ran into something while the other didn't. One might conclude one or more of: 1) dldump() is fine --- whatever was wrong isn't now 2) xemacs is not built with GNU ld on Solaris 3) the xemacs and GNU emacs cores have drifted far enough that this comparison is meaningless. My money is on (1)... I'll try to test things out and report back over the next couple of weeks. - Ali