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From: "Clément Pit-Claudel" <cpitclaudel@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why mouse-1/2/3 ?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 10:26:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4865c7e7-129b-a509-694c-d4f037464e52@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200427140852.GA14552@tuxteam.de>

On 27/04/2020 10.08, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 09:36:41AM -0400, Clément Pit-Claudel wrote:
>> On 27/04/2020 07.31, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>>> If you want Emacs to adapt in this point, it's on you to convince
>>> Emacs people that this change is important.
>>
>> FWIW, I don't find the comparison to speaking German very convincing either.
> 
> All metaphors suck in some way. My point is... I've seen all
> too often this antipattern: some enters an existing culture
> and shouts into the room "hey, why are you doing this in such
> a weird way? Come do it this other way I propose, it's much
> better!".

Sometimes it takes an outsider to point out that the emperor has no clothes.
Hopefully the Emacs culture is richer than our outdated terminology ^^

> I think if you want to convince people, you might want to go
> a bit smarter about that :-)

I'm not sure (besides, I'm not sure "smarter" is the right word here).  Sometimes just asking "why" is enough to trigger interesting discussions.  If we don't have a good answer to "why?" except "that how we've always done it", then maybe that's a sign that we're not doing it optimally.  (for example, the other thread on Emacs looking square has yielded valuable new ideas).




  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-27 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-27 11:23 Why mouse-1/2/3 ? ndame
2020-04-27 11:31 ` tomas
2020-04-27 13:36   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-27 13:39     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-27 14:08     ` tomas
2020-04-27 14:26       ` Clément Pit-Claudel [this message]
2020-04-27 14:50         ` tomas
2020-04-27 16:00     ` Drew Adams
2020-04-27 19:04       ` chad
2020-04-28  2:51         ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-28  3:48           ` Tim Cross
2020-04-27 16:01     ` Drew Adams
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-04-27 10:50 ndame
2020-04-27 10:37 ndame
2020-04-27 10:40 ` tomas
2020-04-27 12:32   ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-04-28  2:47     ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-27 10:41 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-04-27 10:47   ` ndame
2020-04-27 11:02     ` tomas
2020-04-27 10:53   ` ndame
2020-04-27 11:11 ` Po Lu
2020-04-27 13:29   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-27 13:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-27 13:27   ` ndame
2020-04-27 15:08     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-25 17:45 ndame
2020-04-25 18:19 ` Zach Pearson
2020-04-26  4:09   ` Po Lu
2020-04-27  9:45     ` ndame
2020-04-27  9:53       ` tomas
2020-04-27 11:10       ` Po Lu
2020-04-27 11:12         ` ndame
2020-04-27 11:46           ` Po Lu
2020-04-26  4:08 ` Po Lu
2020-04-26  6:12   ` Tim Cross
2020-04-26 16:41   ` Drew Adams
2020-04-27  9:30     ` Po Lu
2020-04-27  9:40       ` tomas
2020-04-27  9:47         ` Pip Cet
2020-04-27 15:13           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-28  0:40 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2020-04-28 15:27   ` Drew Adams

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