From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thomas Lord Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: visualization of CVS commits Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:48:58 -0700 Message-ID: <4865442A.3050506@emf.net> References: <20080624.080153.252133130.wl@gnu.org> <87vdzyfx7s.fsf@gmail.com> <87lk0tfno1.fsf@gmail.com> <20080627063235.GB7648@tomas> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214593373 15652 80.91.229.12 (27 Jun 2008 19:02:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, paul.r.ml@gmail.com To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 27 21:03:38 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KCJEK-0005yw-Q9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:03:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43014 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KCJDU-00022k-Vb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:02:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KCJDO-000214-Dv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:02:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KCJDN-00020W-GJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:02:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59934 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KCJDN-00020R-8v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:02:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.42inc.com ([205.149.0.25]:35003) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (SSL 3.0:RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KCJDJ-0003km-CY; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:02:29 -0400 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.5 X-TFF-CGPSA-Filter-42inc: Scanned X-42-Virus-Scanned: by 42 Antivirus -- Found to be clean. Original-Received: from [69.236.114.9] (account lord@emf.net HELO [192.168.1.64]) by mail.42inc.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPA id 33948384; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:02:26 -0700 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060808) In-Reply-To: X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100066 Archived-At: Richard M Stallman wrote: > I see just one reasonable option: *if* there is such a thing as a "good" > Flash video format variant (meaning that Gnash or similar can play > that), > > This is possible but it would not help. > > Gnash handles an increasing subset of Flash. It is possible to make > Flash videos that work with Gnash. I think that YouTube videos work > with Gnash now. At least they did 8 months ago. YouTube's use of > Flash may have changed since then. > > But that doesn't solve the problem, because many sites don't work > with Gnash, so users install the non-free Adobe Flash player. > All the more reason for the GNU project to make: 1. An ogg version. 2. A flash version uploaded to youtube. The description of the flash version *and* the content of the video should encourage the download and use of gnash for those who can, and an ogg player for others. I can picture RMS looking into the camera: "Are you watching this using the Adobe Flash player? Your freedom is under attack!" I doubt many if any will download and install Adobe Flash just to see this one video. -t > > >