Re: -Q / --no-site-file and site-lisp/

["Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>]

Tassilo Horn wrote:
> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
> 
> Hi Reiner,
> 
>>>> .../share/emacs/site-lisp is in the load path, even with `-Q'. One
>>>> has to keep that in mind. Which I didn't do either. ;)
>>> Hm, wouldn't it be sensible to remove it from `load-path' if -Q was
>>> given?
>> I think so.  See
>> <http://thread.gmane.org/v9lkcq9nzu.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de>:
>>
>> ,----
>> | From: Reiner Steib
>> | Subject: Should -Q / --no-site-file eval `subdirs.el'?
>> | Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel
>> | Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 14:15:01 +0200
>> | Message-ID: <v9lkcq9nzu.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de>
>> |
>> | Hi,
>> |
>> | when running `emacs -Q', I was surprised to see site-lisp/*/ in my
>> | `load-path'.  Although the manual (cmdargs.texi [1]) doesn't say
>> | anything about `subdirs.el' (it's not mentioned in the manual at
>> | all), I'd expect "minimum customizations"[1] *not* to modify
>> | `load-path'.  E.g. I have some other Gnus version installed in
>> | site-lisp.  I'd expect Gnus 5.11 from Emacs 22 after `M-x gnus RET',
>> | but I get the version from site-lisp.
>> `----
>>
>> Richard replied:
>>
>> ,----
>> | From: Richard Stallman
>> | Subject: Re: Should -Q / --no-site-file eval `subdirs.el'?
>> | Date: 2007-08-05 20:54:34 GMT
>> | 
>> | I think it should load subdirs.el.  Hiding the packages available on
>> | your site is not the purpose.
>> `----
> 
> Well, if that's Richard's opinion, that's fine.  But there should be
> some option (i.e. --vanilla, -V) which is like -Q and does not load any
> external packages.

Do you mean "does not alter load-path" by running any site-lisp/subdirs.el?

I think that would be useful. (Maybe there could be a --no-site-dir in 
addition to -V?)

> We always say "give a recipe starting with emacs -Q", but that's not
> sufficient if the bug is in some external package in site-lisp/.
> 
> Bye,
> Tassilo
> 
> 
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