From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#456: menu-bar does not resize window Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:28:29 +0200 Message-ID: <485E0D2D.2060009@gmx.at> References: <4be34f530806202238w17121692g4b598cc8f0402333@mail.gmail.com> <485CB10E.1050307@gmx.at><4be34f530806210224w747c13eam7137dd6fe3e5b618@mail.gmail.com> <485CF670.3010602@gmx.at> <004101c8d3b4$cf446840$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: martin rudalics , 456@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214124451 23986 80.91.229.12 (22 Jun 2008 08:47:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:47:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'David Trallero' , 456@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 22 10:48:15 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KALF9-0005WQ-26 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:48:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50951 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KALEK-00020q-3E for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 04:47:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KALEC-0001yp-8b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 04:47:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KALE9-0001xW-3V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 04:47:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51509 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KALE8-0001xN-V7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 04:47:12 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:33455) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KALE8-0008Pp-Du for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 04:47:12 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m5M8lAoo023565; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 01:47:10 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m5M8e4DG021349; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 01:40:04 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: martin rudalics Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:40:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 456 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 456-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B456.121412340619063 (code B ref 456); Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:40:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 456) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 22 Jun 2008 08:30:06 +0000 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with SMTP id m5M8U1MT018844 for <456@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 01:30:03 -0700 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 22 Jun 2008 08:29:55 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-55-177.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.55.177]) [62.47.55.177] by mail.gmx.net (mp026) with SMTP; 22 Jun 2008 10:29:55 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19m2LVnfulm/Pt12QNpZ31VZNXO82WDmgJFleS3uh AiefHgTlRAzbn5 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en In-Reply-To: <004101c8d3b4$cf446840$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 04:47:15 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:18496 Archived-At: > I don't agree that it happens by design, unless you mean that it happens just > because it happens and no one has fixed it yet. ;-) No. It happens because it _was_ designed that way. >>Quite often you want an exact text-layout within a window. >>For example, you might want windows to display exactly 80 >>columns of buffer text. >>Adding/removing scroll-bars shouldn't change that. And what holds for >>the width of windows should probably also hold for their height. > > That might be one use case, for some people. If so, it is also an argument > against the current way of handling the tool-bar. You can't have it both ways. Adding/removing tool-bars _may_ change the height of the frame on some platforms. I was told by Richard I think that change causes another bug. The height in lines of an Emacs frame is not supposed to include the tool bar. If you create a frame and specify 40 lines, you should get 40 lines of text, plus a tool bar. [http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-12/msg01148.html] and by Robert I like it that the number of lines of text stays the same. [http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-12/msg01172.html] Hence, unless we reach a common opinion on how to handle these issues accross _all_ platforms and window managers, hardly anyone will try to fix them (IIUC Jan gave up already).