Re: 23.0.60; emacs-report-bug fails silently

["Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>]

Florian Beck wrote:
> "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> Florian Beck wrote:
>>> "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Florian Beck wrote:
> 
>>>>> If I send a bug with 
>>>>>
>>>>> emacs -Q
>>>>> M-x report-emacs-bug
>>>>>
>>>>> emacs trys to use sendmail-user-agent by default.
>>>>>
>>>>> This doesn't work, which is no surprise because I haven't even installed
>>>>> sendmail.
>>>>>
>>>>> What *is* a problem is that there is no indication that sending the
>>>>> message failed. Emacs even displays Sending…done.
> 
>>> Also, I'm not looking for a workaround. (After I set mail-user-agent to
>>> gnus-user-agent everything is fine.) I'm reporting that on systems
>>> without sendmail bug reports likely disappear without trace.
>> What I meant is that we should not require users to use any special
>> mail agent to send bug reports. If they just have a system mail client
>> set up it should work by using that.
>>
>> Perhaps you did not have a system mail client set up?
> 
> Not that I know of. I never needed to and I would not know how to set
> it up. As I said, now that I know about the problem, it is easy for me
> to fix.
> 
> Look, if you think my setup is bizzare, please ignore my report.

No, I just wanted to be sure about what could be done.

 From what you have told us it looks like when

- there is no way for Emacs to send the bug report itself
- and there is no system mail client that can be used

then Emacs pretends it still has sent the message. That is of course a 
bug that should be removed if it is possible.

Though I am not at all sure what is happening on your system. On my w32 
system mail-user-agent is 'sendmail-user-agent. However when sending bug 
reports `mailclient-send-it' is used to send the message.

You said you know how to fix it. Do you mean you have a solution for how 
to fix this bug in Emacs? Otherwise could you check what is happening 
when you try to send a bug report? Is `mailclient-send-it' called?

> But I don't
> think it is. I installed Ubuntu and used gnus to talk to my pop server. I
> didn't configure sendmail or a system mail client or `mail-user-agent'
> because everything worked – until after more then a year I realised that
> emacs bug reports were not delived, despite the message »Sending…done«.
> 
>